Paul P. petroluem predicts the powered vehicle will suffer a sudden, agonizing death "sometime around January 2009". My prediction: Fossil fuel consumption will accelerate over the next five years, dropping sharply consequent to a global cataclysm that will redefine life on this planet. Mojave Greenby mojavegreen - Deep Creek Hot Springs, Apple Valley, California
Rick writes: "Is BLM aware of this problem and are they going to do anything?" The BLM ranger who has been replacing the signs reports the vandalism to the BLM Field Manager. BLM is required to provide "safe and convenient access" to the hot springs, consequently WEMO left the door open for changes. The current route (replacing traditional access on Moss Mill Rd.) wasby mojavegreen - Deep Creek Hot Springs, Apple Valley, California
Reposted so as not to confuse with old posts: Paul P. writes: "Since Barry Nelson of the BLM has moved on, I'm curious about Mike's current relationship with the new BLM regime." BLM is currently signing open routes in the region. Curiously, BLM's signs marking the free access routes around Bowen Ranch have been replaced several times, but disappear as quickly as they are installed. Tby mojavegreen - Deep Creek Hot Springs, Apple Valley, California
Paul P. writes: "Since Barry Nelson of the BLM has moved on, I'm curious about Mike's current relationship with the new BLM regime." BLM is currently signing open routes in the region. Curiously, BLM's signs marking the free access routes around Bowen Ranch have been replaced several times, but disappear as quickly as they are installed. The culprit has so far eluded the new BLM Lawby mojavegreen - Deep Creek Hot Springs, Apple Valley, California
(Perfect) storm coming? To what end? "There is among the more fortunate members of the human society a great need for a profound disillusionment—mainly still of the illusions of immature materialism and intellectual/conceptual arrogance, but also of what constitutes a good spiritual life."by mojavegreen - Deep Creek Hot Springs, Apple Valley, California
"wetter-than-average conditions over portions of the U.S. Gulf Coast and Florida" Sounds like we are not getting any benefit from El Nino!by mojavegreen - Deep Creek Hot Springs, Apple Valley, California
12-30-06 11:58 Dan writes, "The accusations and name calling persist, with Dave calling me a "punk" just a few days ago." Hi Dan, In your most recent post on DUSA, you call Yellow Pine a "nutball". If there was provocation, I missed it. Or are you using "nutball" as a term of endearment? "Otherwise, we would have nutballs such as YP simply executinby mojavegreen - Deep Creek Hot Springs, Apple Valley, California
In retrospect, now realizing that some readers of DUSA Forum are so easily offended, it would have been better to have addressed the legal question separately. As I said, it was not intended to detract from his well-stated analysis of the problems on DUSA.by mojavegreen - Deep Creek Hot Springs, Apple Valley, California
My post on Big Al was intended as an accolade for his efforts to give positive focus to the DUSA forum. I extracted a portion of his postings because I felt they were particularly well-stated. My comment on the difference between ethics from legality was not intended as a criticism, since Big Al has already voiced a concern for ethics. Mojave Greenby mojavegreen - Deep Creek Hot Springs, Apple Valley, California
We are used to change proceeding at an arithmetic rate, which is the basis for predictions accepted by the general public. The current reality suggests that, at some point, change will become exponential.by mojavegreen - Deep Creek Hot Springs, Apple Valley, California
In the DUSA Forum, Big Al from Oak Hills makes an effort to steer that forum in a positive direction. I would question his last point. From my perspective, it appears that slanderous attacks are being challenged, not as potential lawsuits but for unfairness: Extracts from Big Al's most recent postings: "It seems that no matter how much sense and intelligent feedback one tries to providby mojavegreen - Deep Creek Hot Springs, Apple Valley, California
Paul P. wrote: "Since the signs that prohibit illegal OHV use are torn down right away, why not get some permanent heavy metal signs installed like the Deep Creek sign? That thing has been in place for at least the 30 years I've been going there." Hi Paul, I had intended to answer sooner, and apologize for getting distracted. Most OHV riders in our region would agree that it servesby mojavegreen - Deep Creek Hot Springs, Apple Valley, California
Mutual respect on DUSA message board? Today's postings: I have read some of the past posts you guys have posted and yes I know about the name calling. I restrained myself from replying because I didn't want to sound like and "idiot" right off . I agree that private property is such. No trespassing allowed unless you allow it. Personally if I owned some acres in a beautiful part of thby mojavegreen - Deep Creek Hot Springs, Apple Valley, California
Occasionally, the conflict on DUSA becomes amusing, especially when someone scores a zinger: Mike posts: Your continued insults and inflamatory remarks about my heritage is the reason you are yellowpee. Your comment "Actually, MMM, you are the one that sounds like a racist to me." is something a raceist would say. I defend my heritage as both white and native. You speak of multi-generby mojavegreen - Deep Creek Hot Springs, Apple Valley, California
Dan writes, "You can demonize this guy Arizona Mike all you want. But I've also read third party posts here claiming he was tossed out of FOJF for being an "OHV spy". Such a heinous crime! It does say a lot about the mindset of FOJF, however, if being an OHV recreationist is actionable, as in the case of Arizona Mike being thrown out on his ear. " Friends of Juniper Flats iby mojavegreen - Deep Creek Hot Springs, Apple Valley, California
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Why the mudslinging on the DUSA website? Dan and his friends charge that property owners (i.e. Sandman, Emanon, and Yellow Pine) are part of an environmental conspiracy. Their opinions (presumably representative of the OHV community)as recently posted on the DUSA website are summarized as follows: 1) The "enviro crowd" supports the concepts of the socialist party. 2) The goal ofby mojavegreen - Deep Creek Hot Springs, Apple Valley, California
Hi Dan, Thank you for your response and I am sure you will find agreement in this forum on many points of your argument. Dave's issue with you is likely reflected in your statement: "He seeks to freely disseminate lies and false claims about OHV users, and the activity, and I seek to point out where he is wrong." As I recall, you initiated a thread entitled "Sandman and His Neiby mojavegreen - Deep Creek Hot Springs, Apple Valley, California
Here is the latest from Dan and his friends on DUSA: JIM writes: "It appears there a snake from Mojave who is C&P'n snip from this thread for SandBears DCHS, kinda takes the comments here out of context, complete with creative editing. Maybe they should come on here to discuss the issues or they can stay in the shadows, makes no difference to me." My response: The posts wereby mojavegreen - Deep Creek Hot Springs, Apple Valley, California
Here are recent opinions of Dan and his friends on global warming: Why is it they have suddenly changed the whole catch phrase for the entire concept of humans ignorantly creating huge changes in the earth's atmospheric phenomena to "global climate change"? Haven't they got the memo? Or, is there some other reason for them to sell us on the idea of global cooling/global warming/globalby mojavegreen - Deep Creek Hot Springs, Apple Valley, California
While waiting for Dan's reply, you might be interested in what has been posted on DUSA since Dan and Kevin's postings on this Deep Creek Hot Springs Forum: If Dan were to drive down there, I would fear he would get gang raped by all the people you fired up. I wonder if the county health department has ever tested that pool you hang out at for bio-hazards? It looks like the perfect breading grouby mojavegreen - Deep Creek Hot Springs, Apple Valley, California
Thank you for posting, Dan. You suggest: "My position has always been that better and more effective law enforcement is the solution." Your proposal for better and more effective law enforcement has a high level of merit. We wish it were that easy. If you have ever had occasion to call for law enforcement, you will be met a response not to your liking. Law enforcement resourcesby mojavegreen - Deep Creek Hot Springs, Apple Valley, California
I appreciate Kevin's perspective and hope that he will continue to post his views in this forum. Laughing Bear is a highly respected member of this community. He has long been active in promoting dialogue as a way of resolving land use issues. Since rogue riders on Juniper Flats usually respond with a raised finger and a roost, participation in a forum would have seemed to offer an opportunityby mojavegreen - Deep Creek Hot Springs, Apple Valley, California
Rick writes , "I guess facts just aren't Dan's thing." I challenge Dan Clark to produce any evidence of the insulting allegations that he has made against residents and property owners of Juniper Flats. As a further absurdity, Dan is describing his own "hood" in terms of lawlessness-(particularly methamphetamine sales). Last Saturday's LA Times reported one of the largest aby mojavegreen - Deep Creek Hot Springs, Apple Valley, California
Certain OHV recreationists from Orange County have long promoted this area as being lawless to justify their own bad behavior. Dan Clark does a disservice to OHV recreational interests by using slander and attempted intimidatation against property owners and residents of Juniper Flats. We will challenge anyone who intends to use our community in a destructive manner. It is tactics like Dan'sby mojavegreen - Deep Creek Hot Springs, Apple Valley, California
The following local history was published in the current Friends of Juniper Flats newsletter. On your way to Deep Creek Hot Springs, you pass through old Monaghan Ranch in Arrastre Canyon: HISTORY OF MONAGHAN RANCH Juniper Flats/Arrastre Canyon offered a last opportunity to take ownership under the Homestead Act of 1862. After Mark Law's first patent on upper Rock Springs on July 8, 1919, Jamby mojavegreen - Deep Creek Hot Springs, Apple Valley, California
I went to the alternative car show in Santa Monica yesterday, a whole hangar of possibilities at the airport. Interesting exhibitors and attendees, but no clear winners in my mind after viewing all. Battery technology is currently a limiting factor for hybrids. Was told by one exhibitor that the Chevron had purchased the most promising technology and is just sitting on it (because it posed a tby mojavegreen - Deep Creek Hot Springs, Apple Valley, California
Rick writes: "Or if one reads too fast: Tales of the still make me thirsty for more!" Interesting that it would read that way! Bootleg whiskey was a local tradition in the days of Prohibition and there is a story behind Mark Law's still. I decided to leave it out of this history and address it in a later history of "moonshine" in Arrastre. Law's moonshiner's cave wasby mojavegreen - Deep Creek Hot Springs, Apple Valley, California
By coincidence, Mark Law's (small) home town of Shullsburg, WI was within 20 miles of (even smaller) Oneco, Illinois. Oneco was my great grandparent's home from 1860 to 1872 and they very likely knew Law's parents.by mojavegreen - Deep Creek Hot Springs, Apple Valley, California
Not long ago, the Euro was approx .85 to the dollar. I think it is around 1.33 now. The dollar may still be propped up, but has already eroded significantly. How else are we paying for a war (while giving tax cuts to the rich, many of whom are profiting from the war)? Latest word from George W. is that we will stay in Iraq as long as the Iraqi leadership wants us there and that we will giveby mojavegreen - Deep Creek Hot Springs, Apple Valley, California