Sky has just drilled a well and has plenty of water for the project. Sky is a hotspringer and obviously wants to restore the environment. The trees chosen are drought resistent. This area used to be a pinon forest. I have heard there are photos of this area where there were abundant trees covering the land. I heard these trees were cut down for lumber in the 1920's.by katrina island - Deep Creek Hot Springs, Apple Valley, California
This was a controlled burn which allegedly got out of controll. Here is one of the newsarticles about this fire: http://www.sbsun.com/news/articles/0602/01/new01.asp There are several citizens in the county who allege that certain areas are burned for the purpose of making the land easier for development. When an area of land has been damaged by fire there are reduced environmental protectionby katrina island - Deep Creek Hot Springs, Apple Valley, California
The county road goes right up to the Bowen Ranch tollgate and through the property. I have posted the tax map from the county records to clarify the boundaries and show you that you park on Rancho Las Flores land. http://www.deepcreekhotsprings.org/bowenroad.html Prior post under "VIRUS" PEACEFUL WARRIOR is mistaken. Author: PEACEFUL WARRIOR (---.proxy.aol.com) Date: 05-02-02by katrina island - Deep Creek Hot Springs, Apple Valley, California
So, was it cross-country or downhill? Were they wearing ski boots? unbelievable!by katrina island - Deep Creek Hot Springs, Apple Valley, California
Today's news article concerning the opening of more roads and areas in the Willow Fire area. http://www.vvdailypress.com/cgi-bin/newspro/viewnews.cgi?newsid1022171570,98045,by katrina island - Deep Creek Hot Springs, Apple Valley, California
The number of rattlers is based on the age of the rattler. They also shed their skin. I think this is when they develop each new rattle. Please be extremely careful this year as there is like no anti-venom available. Huge shortage.by katrina island - Deep Creek Hot Springs, Apple Valley, California
I guess I forgot to say that they were against having a new tower put up. They objected to the unslightlyness of the towers and the possible effect of the micro waves. You know they even have towers that look like pine trees.by katrina island - Deep Creek Hot Springs, Apple Valley, California
The website should be up in 24 hours. This was not at all related to any legal action. What happened previously was due to using a free website with stringent terms. The terms stated that if the information may be considered libelous or defamatory that they reserved the right to cancel the website. Obviously what is on the website could be considered libelous or defamatory and the server did nby katrina island - Deep Creek Hot Springs, Apple Valley, California
Residents of Lake Arrowhead came out in droves when the county supervisors were reviewing a proposal to put a cell phone tower in the area.by katrina island - Deep Creek Hot Springs, Apple Valley, California
First of all, I am not angry with you or Kevin. I don't even know you. The Grant Deed is a public document so anyone who wishes could find out your address. However, I will remove your address from the document displayed here out of consideration. There is no feud. There is an individual (Mike Castro) who has been committing crimes against the public. We are merely attempting to have this indivby katrina island - Deep Creek Hot Springs, Apple Valley, California
I would have to politely decline your invitation. Thanks anyway.by katrina island - Deep Creek Hot Springs, Apple Valley, California
I really think that it is important for the people who care about the future of the springs to meet and develop some kind of consensus about specific issues that have been raised by the Forest Service: 1. Trash. 2. Overnight camping. 3. Increased use. 4. Lawlessness or violence. 5. Sanitary facilities or lack thereof. 6. Illegal camp fires. I think it is important to reach some agreementsby katrina island - Deep Creek Hot Springs, Apple Valley, California
14. "Lots of accusations, no proof. I'll bet that Nancy is sorry that she ever listened to you and William." A. Actually, she is happy and learned a lot. 15. "You have posted the "El Mirage Dry Lake Incident". Do you have a police report that backs up any of the statements made by the, and I quote, "drunken rollover"? Anything?" A. Actually, yes Iby katrina island - Deep Creek Hot Springs, Apple Valley, California
My posting would not post due to the length of the questions and answers. I will have to post this in two parts. So many questions, so did you have Mike Casto's attorney assist you with them? PLAINTIFF'S RESPONSE TO DEFENDANT'S INTERROGATORIES: 1. "Have you ever produced, for people to see, an easement over the land that is now owned by Kevin and Tanya?" A. The document is on thby katrina island - Deep Creek Hot Springs, Apple Valley, California
Bravo!!! Bravo!!! Bravo!!! If nothing else comes out of this, this is just wonderful. This is what Deep Creek has needed. I couldn't be happier. I hope that a wise group forms and really comes up with solutions and really starts participating with the U. S. Forest Service. May I suggest that Kevin and Tanya not be in attendance either? Anyone with a real estate interest. I could not aby katrina island - Deep Creek Hot Springs, Apple Valley, California
You are so right. While we are hashing this issue out, the agencies are making decisions about the future of the hotsprings. These decisions are being made without us. The people who love the hotsprings should participate in these decisions and let these agencies know that they have an interest in the future of this area. I am sure they are concerned about the very issues that we have beeby katrina island - Deep Creek Hot Springs, Apple Valley, California
One mile from either side of Deep Creek.by katrina island - Deep Creek Hot Springs, Apple Valley, California
Probably a couple of guys from the village. If they are who I think they may be, they are usually rather unattractive, unkempt, smell unsavory, but are harmless. These guys hitchhike to the liquor store.by katrina island - Deep Creek Hot Springs, Apple Valley, California
The Orange County Tollroad is a publically owned tollroad operated by a private company. This is a legal tollroad. The Bowen Ranch Road is a private tollroad operated by a private individual. This is not a legal tollroad. Because you pay a fee and then drive across the Bowen Ranch land to park upon someone else's land this is a tollroad. People have been confused about these issues stating thby katrina island - Deep Creek Hot Springs, Apple Valley, California
Naked man you are mixing up the issues about the definition of a tollroad by then reverting back to the Bowen Ranch Building ownership issue. The Bowen Ranch ownership issue will be resolved through legal processes and we can discuss all we want here, however, the court will have the final word. At this point, I think any more discussion about this is just discussion and words. Action is in thby katrina island - Deep Creek Hot Springs, Apple Valley, California
"Why do you insist that it's a "toll road" when the definition of a toll road is that it's on PUBLIC land? The roads on the Ranch are on PRIVATE land. There is absolutely NO public land involved here." This was quoted directly from the vehicle code. Mike Castro can draw all kinds of maps. Care to look for benchmarks to verify boundaries? The rest of your statements are jby katrina island - Deep Creek Hot Springs, Apple Valley, California
The Bureau of Land Management (BLM) are planning on expanding the Juniper Flats ACEC. If they are successful, you will be hiking from wherever the BLM say you will. Anywhere from the Forest Service Boundary to Tussing Ranch Road. Remember in the proposed 1995 plan the BLM was planning to expand the Juniper Flats ACEC (Area of Critical Environmental Concern) from the current 3 square miles toby katrina island - Deep Creek Hot Springs, Apple Valley, California
County Supervisor Postmus supports recreational use of public lands and was instrumental in passing the county resolution asserting RS2477, the county's right to assert access rights on roads existing prior to 1976. Bill Postmus needs to hear from the public concerning their views on how the public lands should be managed in the future. Remember last week I mentioned that the BLM had difficby katrina island - Deep Creek Hot Springs, Apple Valley, California
County Supervisor Postmus supports recreational use of public lands and was instrumental in passing the county resolution asserting RS2477, the county's right to assert access rights on roads existing prior to 1976. Bill Postmus needs to hear from the public concerning their views on how the public lands should be managed in the future. Remember last week I mentioned that the BLM had difficby katrina island - Deep Creek Hot Springs, Apple Valley, California
Please note that informed, incredulous and Cares all have the server proxy.aol.com I believe that these are all the same individual and I believe that this individual may actually be Tanya Ryan who purchased the neighboring 40 acres. This may shed a light on the tone of the postings done by this individual.by katrina island - Deep Creek Hot Springs, Apple Valley, California
Mike Castro paid $150,000. for his purchase. Kevin and Tanya paid $80,000. for their purchase. You can tell by the document transfer tax which is $1.10 per thousand. In the early days, Gary Roe was at the ranch and keeping a journal. During 1993 when the toll was 2 bucks, the journal figures indicate that the toll income was approximately $30,000. to $40,000. per year. Based on the toll increaby katrina island - Deep Creek Hot Springs, Apple Valley, California
Welcome back DCR. I enjoyed your posts. Yes the 55 posts on that one thread was a record. Yes the opposition was baiting but we hashed out some issues pretty well.by katrina island - Deep Creek Hot Springs, Apple Valley, California
The subject of banning was raised concerning alcohol as is being done at Bagby. No one has the authority to ban anyone from public land. However, if a person has committed a crime on public land, then criminal charges could be brought. I have never had any bad experiences at the springs either. However, I have heard about some random violence at the springs. People have talked about a guyby katrina island - Deep Creek Hot Springs, Apple Valley, California
a place that we looooovvvvveeeee! and it is so wonderful, beautiful, healing, paradise, interesting conversations, stars (oops! confession, I like night at the springs), best hike around, renewing, anyway we love this place. But with this place are challenges and issues. This place we love is isolated (which is one of the reasons we like it), far from help or civilization, popular, becoming mby katrina island - Deep Creek Hot Springs, Apple Valley, California
Yes, I think Ron's comments have merit and I will be rearranging the format on the front page of the website to better assist people in finding the information that they want. The reason that it is important that people know about Mike Castro's activities is two fold. One is so that they can take protective measures so that maybe it won't happen to them. Second, so when you are speaking to theby katrina island - Deep Creek Hot Springs, Apple Valley, California