July 17, 2007 08:51PM | IP/Host: ---.socal.res.rr.com Registered: 15 years ago Posts: 1 |
Only if it's not in self-defense. LaughingBear Dave has told us at DUSA that the attacks by OHV riders on innocent landowners in Juniper Flats, just trying to shoo them away, have been on the dramatic increase. According to him, it's at epidemic levels, where landowners are constantly in danger of being run over by angry OHV users on a rampage.
When one is attacked with deadly force, and an ATV is indeed deadly force, one may defend one's life or safety with deadly force. There is no penalty for legitimate defense, even in California. I'd rather be tried by a group of 12 jurors than carried out by a group of 6 pallbearers.
If the problem is as prevalent as Dave says it is, then I'd say it's an option any landowner should consider before walking out to confront a potentially violent and belligerent trespasser.
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