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July 15, 2007 07:42PM
Kelly,

While we are being honest about the issues, let's point out that traveling across an unmarked, unposted, and unfenced portion of open desert land is not necessarily "damage". While I agree that not every landowner wants a motocross track on his/her property, it's quite a stretch to consider a few sets of tire tracks to be damage worth worrying about. One trail across a 200-acre parcel is a long way from a motocross track.

I'll re-iterate: traditionally, if a property owner does not want people to use his/her open land, the only way to signify is to post or fence the property. Otherwise, THE LAW assumes the property owner does not care who ventures onto the property in question.

Since 3973 seeks to reverse the burden of effort, and force all travelers to ASSUME that private property owners do not want anyone on their property unless they take the time and invest the effort to identify and find the owner for written permission, it is the anomaly and not the norm, under the law.

Kelly, you can yell, scream, and wave your arms all you want. But that's the law the way it's been for over a millenium. Those are the facts, and the facts cannot be changed no matter how convenient it would be for you.
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