July 15, 2007 08:06PM | IP/Host: ---.socal.res.rr.com Registered: 15 years ago Posts: 1 |
I understand from your other posts that you feel any set of tire tracks constitute damage to the environment, and that any OHV use is potential damage to the land. But the reality is that your views are not shared by the vast majority of the public.
OHV users have about 5% of public lands in California on which to recreate, despite the fact that approximately 17% of California households are home to one or more OHV's. This is if we assume a single trail across a 200-acre parcel of public lands includes all 200 acres. Approximately 48% of California lands are private property, which we have to assume are off-limits. About 15% is off-limits public lands, such as military bases and National Parks. About 14% is officially designated Wilderness. About 48% is available to the public that is NOT ON OHV's. The numbers don't add up to 100% because much of public lands that is off limits to OHV's is available to those in other recreational pursuits. Only about 4% is military and other lands that are completely off-limits. OHV users have precious little land on which to do their activities, and 3973 crowds it down even tighter by instituting sweeping changes in where small groups of OHV users can stage. 3973 does not fix the problem, it makes it worse.
The main point is that your post above assumes that your view of what constitutes damage is accurate, and that the public agrees, and that it's only OHV users who are ignorant that their tire tracks and trails are irreparable damage. But the public does not agree with this assessment. In fact, a large portion of the public IS an OHV user.
"Compliance" does not necessarily mean to fit your idea of belief and behavior. "Damage" does not necessarily mean any tire track or singletrack trail through an area. And every venture with an OHV across a section of private land does not constitute trespass, unless of course, you happen to be in San Bernardino County in 2007.
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