Sycamore, its a simple discussion here. Now you say I belittled you. Its you who said that my post ( words ) was a form of manipulation which would in essence also mean that I somehow, through my words was also attempting to control you. My statement " If mere words manipulate and control you, then I can't help that. " is a simple statement of what I understand your position to be about all of this, and that if you feel that way, its out of my hands, people use words to communicate. I am not trying to make you respond if you don't want to, or act in accordance with my views, I do however pose questions to find out others opinions.