Sycamore, I see the only point you responded to in my post previous to yours above was the issue of whether you described anything I said to you as " hard core manipulation ". Well you can certainly can choose to avoid explaining in some sensible way your point that asking a question of you somehow causes you to be manipulated, but you have proven nothing to me. Lets look " again " at the sentence in which you use the phrase " hard core manipulation ". Your sentence says " I faced down and won over hard core manipulation and I refuse to accept it from you ". It is true that the hard core manipulation you are speaking of in this sentence appears to be some other situation you encoutered but you then go on to refer to this hard core manipulation as " it ". In reference to your use of " it " you say within the sentence " I refuse to accept it from you " which is saying you refuse to accept hard core manipulation ( it ) from me. This sentence implies without any doubt that you feel you have already received hard core manipulation from me. So you are in this sentence indicating that something I wrote, did or said was interpreted by you as hard core manipulation. Now I know this explanation is probably full of code words that may cause me to have mind control over you which will enable me to manipulate you completely so perhaps you should not read this :-)
