First Sycamore, where did I write the words " but don't you agree ". Even if I said that verbaly, which I seriously doubt I did, how in the world could you say that was manipulation. Would the utterance of simple words " force " you to change your opinion or position on and issue. Of course not. Second, asking you what you think about a subject is manipulation, you must be kidding. You indicate that if I ask you a question, I am seeking verification, again, you must be kidding. I ask a question, for you to give your opinion, there is nothing manipulative about it. Why do you think people communicate, by your definition all communication would be considered manipulation. In posing my question about whether AZ had called you I asked a pure and simple straighforward question being " Did you here from AZ and if so what do you think about his attempt to censor, to his liking, this forum we post on ". Now you took exception to my use of the word " censor " and I chose another word " modify " to replace it. I'll admit that I'm not a human dictionary. The word censor did not accurately describe what I meant. Apart from that correction the question was completely straightforward. Did you talk to AZ and what did you think. First, how do I manipulate you if I ask you if you talked to AZ. Second, how do I manipulate you if I ask what you think. Both points are ludicrous. I must say that I am rolling in laughter to see you describe my simple question to you as " hard core manipulation ". Since people on this forum ask questions and give opinions, the manipulation here is obviously rampant, by your definition :-)