AZ, Its really just a hoot to see you talkin about people runnin around with no clothes on. What, are you adverse to, the clothing optional envirnoment now. Your naked all the time down at Deep Creek. I have never seen you complain about families being together unclothed at DCHS before. I find it funny to think that you would have no problem with me being naked in front of my children down at Deep Creek, you have never expessed any misgivings to me, but somehow if I was at my car up in them thar hills that somehow I was now doing something very wrong. There is no differance. Show us AZ, and prove to us, where Katrina has posted under a differant name. As I told Katrina very recently, I will support anyone who is being wrongly portayed or subjected to unreasonable criticism in my mind here on this forum. You talk about a trail being built, we have already gone through all of that, if you have some proof besides the stories you have heard, tell us here or take it to the USFS. You talk of mysterious people associtated with DCHS Inc. , AZ tell us you veiws on all these mysterious people so we can understand what the heck you are talking about. If people take me serriously or respect me I would always expect that they do this because of what they see in me and not because of anything else. Mike, one thing is for sure, your will continue to dig yourself into a hole of your own making.