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July 26, 2002 09:57AM
Paul P. , I just got off the phone with Brad Burns and he said there is no quarter mile rule except in regards to a road ( T-6 crossing ) which crosses Deep Creek far upstream from DCHS. That area is not clothing optional within one quarter mile of " that " road, upstream and downstream. The Forest Service take on nudity in thier forest and at DCHS is that it is allowed and excepted with the stipulation that people should put clothes on if an objection is made to them by " anyone ". Brad said that they haven't had problems with the sheriffs dept coming down for the purpose of arresting people who are nude at and around DCHS or other areas within thier forest. I unfortunatlyl just ran across the wrong people, under unfortunate circumstance. In spite of all of the above the fact that nudity is accepted by the Forest Service does not mean that " any " agency that has specific laws that show public nudity to be an offense could not respond to a situation about someone making a complaint about a nude person with the Forest Service lands. Even though as Brad and I know, that by past experience, it is unlikely for someone to be arrested it " is " a possibility given some unfortunate circumstance as happened in my case. Brad also confirmed that DCHS is not a designated clothing optional area and does not have the same protections a place like Blacks Beach does. I'm sure that the vast majority of the visitors are unaware that the sheriff or CPS " could " cause them problems in regards to them going nude in the Forest Service lands. Families with children need to be expecially aware of this situation. It may be a long shot based on the history of this area but if for example I had not of known the one man with the sheriffs by all indications I would have been arrested and had the CPS getting involved with all the negative things I've heard they can do. When I hiked out that evening everything I did was in line with the recomendations the Forest Service suggest on what a person should do to not be arrested when going nude within Forest Service lands. I think the Forest Service really needs to mention about the possibilities for problems like arrest if you are confronted by any agency who follows differant guidlines in relation to nudity in public. I've been told there is a sign at the Bowen Ranch parking area that discusses the Arroyo Toad and the fact that Deep Creek is a day use area. This is an informational and warning sign to visitors. As far as I know if you violate the day use rule you get a 50 dollar ticket. Now what if a family calls the Forest Service and ask about thier policy for nudity within Forest Service lands and is told its ok, just dress if you are confronted and you will have no problems. So this family thinking they have the correct information on how to conduct themselves goes on a trip to these Forest Service areas with the intention of spending the day without clothes on. So at some point, for some reason they come across a sheriff or someone who might make a complaint directly to the CPS about thier nudity or the fact that they are nude in front of thier minor children. The adults get arrested, the CPS gets involved and they could very well find themselves in an expensive and very upsetting situation for thier family. Now if a sign is deemed necesary to warn people on how not to get a 50 dollar ticket, does not a situation like I describe warrant some kind of warning.
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