I dont think I have seen that wrecked car up on the side of the hill to the west of the trail going down to the hotsprings before. When you get down to the fork in the trail, ( to the left is the hard way, To the right is the eazy way.) up,way up on the hill to the west, "your right", and north of the creek is a upside down car. If your coming down the Backford ridge trail, When you get to the P.C.T., stop and look across the canyon due north up that hill allmost to the top. I dont know how that got there. Anyone seen that before? I dont think I can hike over to it without ropes. Let me know. Greg