No stories in the Victor Valley press. I scrolled back in the older stories and nata. I also looked at the county records for this and natta. You should wander what the headline would be. Family terrorised and tortured by police dept? or; 90 year olds recovering from police brutality. or; Lap top missing, everyone turn in your lap tops to homeland security ? NOW ! Mohave is probly rightby jobe - Deep Creek Hot Springs, Apple Valley, California
Well, it appears I am the only person who knows anything about this. ? I thought someone better connected than me would show up and set the record straight. All of my information is second hand from friends, neighbors and family of the Oak springs riding stables. People I see most of the time I am visiting D.C.H.S. I will spend my evening looking for the search warrant. I want to know who tby jobe - Deep Creek Hot Springs, Apple Valley, California
After talking to some locals about this yesterday, I found that the 90+ great grandparents were NOT handcuffed but were required to stand outside in the cold for hours where they got sick and had to go to the hospital. I hope the idiot got his lap top back? Also the rifles hanging on the wall had the firing pins removed and could not hurt a fly. They were antique show pieces/conversation starterby jobe - Deep Creek Hot Springs, Apple Valley, California
Paul, The 2 oldest males were taken in on gun charges, I heard. Can anyone smarter than me find an record @ this from the sheriffs dept. ? Do you not know that almost every home owner in that area has been arrested for having guns ? It is a blanket charge for anyone the top cop don't like. And IF you live out side de city he no like you. Besides he does not have Rick Channing to kick around anby jobe - Deep Creek Hot Springs, Apple Valley, California
OK, First a little back ground history... Oak Springs is a beautiful ranch and a beautiful place with some beautiful people living nearby. Everyone who lives in that area and who complies with the prop.215 medical marijuana laws has had their paper work scrutinized in the past several weeks by the sheriffs dept. Dianne and Glenn the owners met at D.C.H.S. many years ago. They have 12 childrby jobe - Deep Creek Hot Springs, Apple Valley, California
I beg to differ. This story is a bunch of crap. Are you the same person who said Aubriana died ? There is no Deep creek gun club. Who ever wrote this is full of you know what. The only gun club is when I take my .357, my nine millimeter, my .38 and my shot guns to target practice. Also your picture is from the PCT at a point where there was a land slide 2 years ago. BAD storyline, BAD picturby jobe - Deep Creek Hot Springs, Apple Valley, California
It was 1 pm when I got to the Freedom trail head. There were 2 trucks parked one belongs to a Deep Creek regular. I saw 4 vehicles over on the Bowen Ranch parking area. There was no wind and no clouds and it was very quiet. When I got to the springs there were @ 25 people there. The first couple I met in the Womb pool had used their GPS to find the springs. It had taken them all day because at fby jobe - Deep Creek Hot Springs, Apple Valley, California
Mohave, I get it. Finding a good woman is kinda like going to the great outdoors, you never know what you will find. Just try to be ready for it, no matter the what. As for the canoe trips: The adventure companies put into the river @ 1/4 of a mile down river from a cable which is across the river that says; DANGER DO NOT CROSS ; seroius injury or death might occur. That is good enough reasonby jobe - Deep Creek Hot Springs, Apple Valley, California
Mohave, I knew you would enjoy the place. Kayaks and canoes are a terrific option but, also consider renting a boat. It usually cost less than 140 $ per day. When I lived there I bought a boat just so I could always go to the river, whenever. Upon hindsight, renting would have been a much cheaper alternative. That old model T has been there for a long time. My son and me carried out some of thby jobe - Deep Creek Hot Springs, Apple Valley, California
Leonard Scott is his name. He is a registered sex offender from Utah. He lived/camped at DCHS for @ 1 year before they came and got him for not registering with the state. I saw him at the springs @ 2months ago. He only camped for @ 1 week and left again. He told me he was going back to Arizona for his cooking gig he had there before his arrest.by jobe - Deep Creek Hot Springs, Apple Valley, California
The last time I saw Sweet pea was @ 3 years ago. I was gassing my truck at a AM/PM when a VW pulled up next to me. I reconized her immediately. But she seemed not to see me. So, when she came out of the store I called to her. She said I did not know her and that she was not the person she used to be but was some one else and I did not know her. Which was puzzeling to me. She did dress and move dby jobe - Deep Creek Hot Springs, Apple Valley, California
I knew who he was. He was a hippy in his soul and a fun guy to be around except when he was too drunk. Back in the early 90's when I was learning about the politics of the area I partyed with him. I told him if he got his high school diploma or GED I would help him get into my union. He used to claim he was working on that. Right ? I remember his father coming from New Mexico looking for him. Iby jobe - Deep Creek Hot Springs, Apple Valley, California
I agree neo, and I get your point. The stash is at a very difficult place to explain. I need to buy a digital explainer or I'll just show it to you next time. Thanks for caring. The Arizona pool is down hill from the sandy beach. Sand goes down hill because of gravity. No I can not stop that. Perhaps, in the after life I will give that a try?.by jobe - Deep Creek Hot Springs, Apple Valley, California
When I drove past the Bowen ranch parking area there were no cars parked there. When I got to the Freedom trail head there were no cars there either. The Sun was warming the earth as quick as possible at 10 am when I got there. Birds were singing their song and fluttering about. There was only one cloud hovering over the Lake Arrowhead area. I had a nice reunion with the 4 hot spring regulars wby jobe - Deep Creek Hot Springs, Apple Valley, California
Mojave, Back in the early 90's when I lived in the area I came into contact with Brad Burns ( of the Forest Service ) often. He retired @ 1 year ago but then he was the top dog. I discussed your question with him. He told me that if they actually carried a through pass they gave them the benifit of a dobt. As long as they were polite and respectful they did not ticket them. He said 'through hikeby jobe - Deep Creek Hot Springs, Apple Valley, California
Mojave, I have no medical advice because I have not been sick since I was 8. I have 3 sons and they are the same way. However, Once while at Gold Strike hot springs near Vegas I met @ 15 persons who worked at Le' Reve. It could be a good conversation starter to see if she has been there. You may want to take her on that hike to learn about that amazing canyon and her. This forum is too small tby jobe - Deep Creek Hot Springs, Apple Valley, California
Aubriana, Thank you for relief from my grief. I have been grief stricken and sad. This was my worst Thanksgiving in decades. All because some newcomer whom I should NOT have trusted. If you had not relieved my grief by today I had planned on calling that BAD apple out for some response for his/her LIE. I wish I could lock that person up for fraud and put them in a small cell with a big ugly oby jobe - Deep Creek Hot Springs, Apple Valley, California
In case persons here are useing Hwy 173 route via Bradford ridge route to the deep creek area. You may notice Contractors picking up sticks and wood along the road. This is to reduce the fire hazards in the forest area. This web site explains their plans : http://alpenhornnews.com/winter-burns-p4534-1.htm Yesterday while soaking in the hot springs I met a pretty woman who had hiked in usingby jobe - Deep Creek Hot Springs, Apple Valley, California
I just came back from the hot springs. I searched for any info about my free spirited friend and did not find any news stories about AUBRIANA ? Someone who saw her leave town said she took Ava her dog with her in a car full of her gear. Does anyone know if Ava her dog is OK ? For those who do not know Abriana posted as Avadog on this forum. Abriana had a secret camping spot. I went there todaby jobe - Deep Creek Hot Springs, Apple Valley, California
I saw her last Monday, She said her tires were not all that good I told her to get some new ones even if she had to charge it on her credit card. Because it is better than paying for it the other way. I hope THAT is not what did her in !!! I gave her a big hug and kiss and told her I was going to miss her. Life is so unfair ...by jobe - Deep Creek Hot Springs, Apple Valley, California
This is the worst news of the year. Her name was Aubriana Dunn she was a motocross champion. You can see her here : https://www.google.com/search?q=aubriana+dunn+motocross&tbm=isch&tbo=u&source=univ&sa=X&ei=M5yWUqXLAY7noAS6zYGICg&ved=0CDwQsAQ&biw=1024&bih=514by jobe - Deep Creek Hot Springs, Apple Valley, California
Speakeasy, You already are infested with parasites every time you soak. Do you not read the scientific journals? The scientist are learning that our bodies have more parasite DNA than DNA that is yours. We use them to digest our food. Knowledge is a powerful thing, Read up ! Happy soaking !by jobe - Deep Creek Hot Springs, Apple Valley, California
Oh ! What a web we weave once we seek to deceive. Your are right it was all most 4 years ago or 2010.by jobe - Deep Creek Hot Springs, Apple Valley, California
I think a better and more common term would be the hot springs rash. I goggled "psudomonas aeruginosa" and studied about what it is and found this web site answers most questions about it. http://www.everydayhealth.com/health-center/pseudomonas-infection.aspx Upon reflection, I remember when I got the hot springs rash. It was 98 or 97 when I was building the clinical science buildby jobe - Deep Creek Hot Springs, Apple Valley, California
Neogeo, That was then, (5 years ago) this is now. Then everyone was working. Now they have had their budget CUT ! No money means new trucks but no gas. No wonder they are broke. Too many rules and too much waste and no money. And what do we tax payers get ? Campers at Deep Creek. Look up, it could be worse ;~) Live in the now. I think someone here can supply you with a govt. # for you to cby jobe - Deep Creek Hot Springs, Apple Valley, California
There you go Paul, the campers are learning how to bend the rules by using the rules. The rules say a through hiker can access 200 feet either side of the trail. But, Does it say what a through hiker is ? A through hiker is a person who applied for and received a through hiker permit. Permit as in permit me to hike through here. By the rule of law he has a permit to bend the rules. (Uh, no he doeby jobe - Deep Creek Hot Springs, Apple Valley, California
oddie225, The T-6 crossing is in the Cedar Glenn area a neighborhood of Lake Arrowhead. It is Off of Hwy 173. Turn right at Jensen grocery store. That is Hook Creek rd. At the end of this road is the T-6 crossing. The T-6 crossing is a concrete bridge that was built by the Forest service to protect some rare frogs there from 4x4s. Hook creek drains into the Deep Creek Drainage area. It Is @ 14 mby jobe - Deep Creek Hot Springs, Apple Valley, California
Rules, There should be a rule against making too many rules. Which is exacly what they are guilty of. How many here take a shovel with them to the forest? See, we are all criminals as defined by their own rules. Even the Forest rangers Do NOT carry shovels. If one studies these Federal Codes they will learn about a rule that prohibits anyone from entering the forest other than Federal employees.by jobe - Deep Creek Hot Springs, Apple Valley, California
Paul, The Sun does not shine there this time of year and that is why it is 2 degrees cooler than when the sun warms the rocks there. The source there is still 118 degrees just like always. Enjoy !by jobe - Deep Creek Hot Springs, Apple Valley, California
I got to the hot springs at @ 5 am just as the moon was setting in the west the sun was lighting up the eastern sky. It was beautiful to behold. When I got into the Anniversary pool several hotspring regulars spoted me and brought me coffee and cookies. THANX everyone ! After coffee I soaked in the Contemplation pool but it was too cool to stay for long. I got out and wraped myself in my towel anby jobe - Deep Creek Hot Springs, Apple Valley, California