Ron, I did not intend to demean any one w/ numbers. But the original thread was directed to swimbikerun, then your vast knowledge was remembered as a way to solve this problem. Thank you. You are always # 1 in my mind. Being an accountant you should know #'s are only a way to keep things clear. Still, your Honor , to say a vehicle is illeagle is vague. Thereby making such a law void on it's face. As by definition to say : a vehicle is illeagle is to say walking and talking is illeagle. As to walk is a vehicle to get to the springs. Also to talk is a vehicle to expressing how glad you are to be at the springs. And the law it self is a vehicle to control the masses. So to make a vehicle illeagle is a vague law. The law itself is a vehicle. Perhaps us bike riders need to stand up against this oppression. Still it may be a good idea to mention this oppression in the brochure Ron. LOVE is the answer !