Paul P. raises some great idead or topics for discussion. Laughing Bear while I agree with you that the information on a the brocure is sufficient, the advantage of a sign would be that it would be present even if one of our members was not. Funding would be an issue, and if you look for cojoint funding with USFS it will be a drawn out process. We should try and find a low cost alternative, that way you could have a sign on the beach side and one above the AZ o Anniversary pools and maybe even a third coming up on PCT from the spillway. I don't agree that we need to present each question to Brad for their opinion. I feel we first need to decide as agroup what we want and then present our proposal to them for approval. Brad is planning on attending one of our monthly meetings and will notify me in advance so that I can notify you all and we can make a special effort to be there. We could discuss our thoughts with him at that time. Were possible we should try and use the existing sign post that are already there. If we keep cost down, not only can we possibly make more than one, but vandalism will be less of a concern. The signs that are there now don't appear to have been vandalised too much so we might want to look at them.