DCR, In Craigs recent post I tied your good name to AZ,s in a joke at the end of my post in that thread. I should never have made any connection, even as a joke, with you and AZ, who I consider to be a small minded lunatic. You are a fine, good hearted person who I respect alot. My mistake, sorry. Also, I know you don't smoke crack, you may however have a bit of a vision problem since you thoughtby Wizard - Deep Creek Hot Springs, Apple Valley, California
Well folks, There's an example of Mr. AZ for ya. Beleive me, he can get much worse. I've seen him throw his tantrums in various settings numerous times now and it doesn't have to be on the subject of DCHS. He goes off and then all you are faced with is his rantings. The last time he had one of his episodes in my presence was at my house and I asked him to leave after he was rude to my wife. I havby Wizard - Deep Creek Hot Springs, Apple Valley, California
AZ, You flipped and you flopped on whether you liked Mike Castro or not. Like a beached Bass, or maybe a catfish :-) Youv'e been on both sides of that issue so many times that I lost count long ago :-) No need to respond, I know " presently " you are his solid supporter :-)by Wizard - Deep Creek Hot Springs, Apple Valley, California
Who's Craig, anybody know who this Craig guy is? Just kiddin ya Craigster :-) Man, when you go away, you go for a long time. Yes its getting hot out here in the desert. I got rather parched today on a hike down the Bradford Ridge trail to the springs. The water is runnin " real " slow. There's so much stuff growin in and along the creek. I dipped in some nice pools still along the creekby Wizard - Deep Creek Hot Springs, Apple Valley, California
I was also down at DCHS on Monday with my two munchkins. Near sunset I had pretty much gotten myself and the kids ready to go and a ranger and a sheriff arrived and walked by me on toward the grass area around the pools. There were a bunch of people there around the trees. Since I was ready to go I went ahead and began my hike out. I didn't stay to see what went on. I talked to another regular toby Wizard - Deep Creek Hot Springs, Apple Valley, California
Justin, I was at DCHS today briefly on a hike through the area and it appears that guy you mentioned is still there. Some people were around him trying to help him again. I was going to go over and take a look at him but I ran out of time talking with some regulars. There were a bunch of boy scouts with there leaders dealing with the guy. I heard from one of the regulars that this guy had been buby Wizard - Deep Creek Hot Springs, Apple Valley, California
I did a hike into DCHS today. I hiked from where the Bradford Ridge trail begins on route 173. I hadn't been that way in quite a while and had heard from another hotspringer that this trail has been improved since I last walked it. I have two ways I access Deep Creek from where the Bradford Ridge trail starts. One is the Bradford Ridge trail itself which takes you to DCHS. The other is a way I trby Wizard - Deep Creek Hot Springs, Apple Valley, California
Well Laughing Bear, I have only 18 years with no vandalism around the Bowen Ranch. Hopefully my good fortune will continue. So Naked Man, what do you want us to call you now here at the forum ? Concerning you and Tiki, just figured it was a good time to bring it up. Glad your not upset. Hopefully if Tiki visits DCHS he will respect the privacy of other soakers. Ah, doesn't it just feel good to geby Wizard - Deep Creek Hot Springs, Apple Valley, California
Good points Eastbay, Glad you made them, because, that means I don't have to write so much :-)by Wizard - Deep Creek Hot Springs, Apple Valley, California
Ah, thanks for the clarification Naked Man :-)by Wizard - Deep Creek Hot Springs, Apple Valley, California
I was laughing to myself last night when thinking about all the things I have seen and experienced on my visits to the springs since I first visited in 1984. I should right a book about it. Round and round the people have gone, argueing and fighting about access. Will it ever stop? It would be nice if people got along better up there. I have always gone to the springs with a peaceful spirit. I haby Wizard - Deep Creek Hot Springs, Apple Valley, California
Oh boy, looks like I opened up a can o worms with that question I posed for Tiki. Naked man, thats quite an opening punch you have dealt Mr. Tiki :-) I wonder if he's down for the count, or will he be back for more. Perhaps getting all this out on the table for all to see is for the best, eh :-) Tiki, if what Naked Man says is true, then be a good boy and stay away from DCHS and our women and myby Wizard - Deep Creek Hot Springs, Apple Valley, California
Justin, Glad to hear you made the trip. Did you find the Bowen Ranch Ok! Like I told you in my e-mail, DCHS is not a perfect place but it is very special to many of us. Sorry your trip was a bit tainted by having to worry about this fellow with the sunburn. Just like anyplace you go these days, at times, you will meet folks that arn't that responsible. So are you going to tell us about the thingsby Wizard - Deep Creek Hot Springs, Apple Valley, California
Metal Man, just click on the Deep Creek Hotsprings Link below for maps and directions and on the contrary, I'm as happy as a clam right now :-)by Wizard - Deep Creek Hot Springs, Apple Valley, California
Metal Man, Go to the link below " Deep Creek Hotsprings hot springs, INC home page " and you will find directions and maps. Now I know I'm going to get some crap from some of the others here for telling you that. There goes the Wizard, giving directions to DCHS on the internet again. Some of the folks here feel a great need to have a scapegoat for the problems down thar :-)by Wizard - Deep Creek Hot Springs, Apple Valley, California
Metalmiraclemike, just take every left hand turn until you get back home, you need some rest :-)by Wizard - Deep Creek Hot Springs, Apple Valley, California
Metalmiraclemike, what the heck are you talkin about. Has AZ been sharing his crack with you :-)by Wizard - Deep Creek Hot Springs, Apple Valley, California
AZ, I remember a conversation with you in which you told me not to respond to Tiki,s post because he was and Idiot, its flip flop time again :-) Why, you flip and flop so much I'd say your pretty much like a beached fish when it comes to makin up your mind on things :-) Tiki, a little bird told me that you take pictures of naked people at various places and put them on the internet, without thierby Wizard - Deep Creek Hot Springs, Apple Valley, California
AZ, Take another puff on your crack pipe, it was just a simple question dude :-)by Wizard - Deep Creek Hot Springs, Apple Valley, California
I have said it numerous times here on the forum before. Our growing numbers as a society is putting pressures on a whole lot of great places in the U.S. , Deep Creek Hotsprings is not immune to this dynamic reality. The USFS " will " at some point have to alter the policies of access to DCHS, that will be unavoidable. DCHS does not exist in some vacum that the real world does not affecby Wizard - Deep Creek Hot Springs, Apple Valley, California
Channel Nine just said its up to 1300 acres and spreading fast. My wife was coming up the northbound 15 at 4PM and saw the Mercedes car that was on fire that started this blaze. My wife said that at the time she passed the vehicle the cops were taking stuff out of the car and the engine compartment was onfire. Don't the cops have fire extinguishers ?by Wizard - Deep Creek Hot Springs, Apple Valley, California
Castro is not forced to go out and help people. The public is responsible for themselves on these lands. If Mike doesn't like it then he should just stay home. If he wants to do it then stop complaining. AZ. About your trail I know your mind is not what it used to be. Your imagination has played tricks on you. Remember, it was you who did " all " the work on that trail. Take another pufby Wizard - Deep Creek Hot Springs, Apple Valley, California
Xtra, Xtra, Terrorist are attacking DCHS by way of the newly created JF3 trail. Everyone is advised to RUN FOR YOUR LIVES! DCR, I agree with the points you made in your last post. Well Naked man is surely kickin our butts in one category, lengthy post. Quality is however what counts :-) The DCHS Merry Go Round continues to turn :-)by Wizard - Deep Creek Hot Springs, Apple Valley, California
Naked Man, you have your own point of veiw, don't think for a minute though that all the other people who come here to this forum see's things as you do. That is what you imply. Since you and AZ are such good friends now I'm sure you can ask him to show you his trail. He has now admitted doing the illegal work. You have a law breaker for a buddy :-) I seek and side with what I see to be the truthby Wizard - Deep Creek Hot Springs, Apple Valley, California
Paul, you write about the " few " people who go to DCHS and " screw up " the place and imply that they are coming through the open routes around the ranch. Nonsense, the Bowen Ranch is the greatest source of screw ups who harm the springs. Also the public can hike " anywhere " they want in Forestry lands. Thats the law.by Wizard - Deep Creek Hot Springs, Apple Valley, California
EastBay, I agree completely with your points. I would point out one thing. Its obvious by anyone who access the JF3 trail that it has been worked with tools in the last year and a half or so. Building trails with tools in Forestry lands is not legal. However you are correct in saying that it is completely legal for the public to hike that way to the springs. Brad Burns the main USFS enforcement oby Wizard - Deep Creek Hot Springs, Apple Valley, California
Ah, Good to see you finally admit that you are an illegal trail builder and a law breaker to boot. Thats funny how you put it though " minor improvements ", kinda a sneaky way to put it but the fact remains, you altered a trail in Forestry lands with tools, illegally. You mentioned that " you and I " did the minor improvements. You must surely be smokin crack. Nice try, thatsby Wizard - Deep Creek Hot Springs, Apple Valley, California
Mike Dejoyia, even now you show that you are completely unaware of the bridges you have burned by your actions. The coming years will continue to remind you of this reality and the course you have taken. My Wizards crystal ball sees a lonely man in the woods surrounded by neighbors that might have been his friends. This is the bed you have made for yourself. Perhaps your best path now is to sellby Wizard - Deep Creek Hot Springs, Apple Valley, California
Who are you Naked Man ?by Wizard - Deep Creek Hot Springs, Apple Valley, California
Also Naked Man, why don't you ask AZ about his special trail. The one he has worked with hand tools and shrub clippers. AZ is conviently avoiding my question about it, hoping nobody will noticed that I asked about it :-)by Wizard - Deep Creek Hot Springs, Apple Valley, California