Naked Man, At the first meeting we held you were not present. I remember I was suprised that you did not make it after you said you would be coming. I beleive I saw you at DCHS the next day and you said that some kind of emergency came up. Anyway, Ron, Paul, Sycamore and I met at DCHS on the 5th and the 6th and discussed alot of things. We all agreed that it will be best to stay on the subjects oby Wizard - Deep Creek Hot Springs, Apple Valley, California
Laughing Bear, Someone suggested that you might be related to Sycamore Laughing. Just wonderin. Who needs to throw stones, Mike Castro has a loaded gun now :-) In all honesty it would be nice if everyone had a happy face and got along, but real life in many cases just doesn't work that way. Well keep trying eh :-)by Wizard - Deep Creek Hot Springs, Apple Valley, California
Paul, If someone suggests that something is slanderous it seems to me that they should be clear that this is truly the case to be honest in thier accusation. If Mike Castro thinks he has been slandered and he has specific proof of this, then it seems to me he could successfully sue Katrina, but he hasn't. I really don't think you Paul or you MP have the specific proof that would show that what Kaby Wizard - Deep Creek Hot Springs, Apple Valley, California
Sycamore, Also one correction to what you said. I expressed that the new site " might " become one where things will be said to put an ill light on Katrina's character. I didn't say it would. Have a great time at DCHS :-)by Wizard - Deep Creek Hot Springs, Apple Valley, California
If Naked Man and others do create a new Deep Creek site with a truly open, uncensored forum then I think its a strong likelyhood that there will be similiar disagreements there too. So Sycamore, I thought you would be headed up to the Bowen Ranch by now? Ron who has posted here will be up at DCHS tomorrow so you two may very well meet. I wonder if Kat will show up over the weekend. We shall see.by Wizard - Deep Creek Hot Springs, Apple Valley, California
Paul, Would you be Paul Belinger? How old are ya gonna be, or is that a bad question :-) I agree, No one has to prove Mike Castro is innocent of the incidents that Katrina has documented and I've never said that. Can you show me a post where I have said such a thing? On the other hand, no one here has shown, in my opinion, that Katrina's information would qualify as slanderous in regards to Mikeby Wizard - Deep Creek Hot Springs, Apple Valley, California
Naked Man, I find your contention that Katrina is a terrorist on a Jihad and that by posting here you are condoning her terrorist activities is down right amusing. Why, what she is doing is almost on par with 9-11 :-) Well I know you have your strong veiws about this and as you suggested you can certainly make your own discussion forum and Deep Creek website. But wouldn't that just be more advertby Wizard - Deep Creek Hot Springs, Apple Valley, California
Kat, I see now your so calm and collected after your previous post where you are basically demanding that we all stand down and stop expressing our veiws. Your statement " Wev'e got Wizard whinning, crying and complaining about Arizona Mike and just carrying on as if he was ready for an all out war " is in the style of dramatic overstatement that AZ loves to induldge in. My posts aboveby Wizard - Deep Creek Hot Springs, Apple Valley, California
Laughing Bear, The definition of Slander " The utterance of a falsehood that damages another's reputation ". Is Katrina's information false? That is a question that none of us could answer in any complete sense since we were not present during many, or all, of the described incidents. Its just my opinion, but there's way to much smoke in Katrina's information for there not to be any firby Wizard - Deep Creek Hot Springs, Apple Valley, California
Ah, I just realized something in thinking about your name Kat's Nightmare. MR. AZ just hates Katrina. Could Kat's be short for Katrina's. That would be a perfect, sneaky name for Mr. AZ and would be a good description of how Mr. AZ see's his role in all of this forum talk :-) Hmmmmmmmmmmmby Wizard - Deep Creek Hot Springs, Apple Valley, California
I've noticed a couple comments in this thread about slander regarding the information Katrina has posted. I watched a program last night about solving crimes. In this particular program a man had been suspected by law enforcement officials for many years of the possibility of doing a whole host of murders, as well as other crimes. This man to his family, and to all of his friends appeared to be aby Wizard - Deep Creek Hot Springs, Apple Valley, California
Kat,s Nightmare, I did a bit more checkin. Seems you showed up first on 6-30-02 at 10:52 which would correspond nicely to MR. AZ returning to Long Beach from his weekend trip to DCHS, which he mentioned in an earlier post that he would be doing. Since MR. AZ took a real beating recently in previous post and in my Dragon fly post, perhaps when Mr. AZ returned home and checked the forum, he decidedby Wizard - Deep Creek Hot Springs, Apple Valley, California
Sycamore, I will join you on one of the days of the 4 of July weekend. I am looking forward to seeing the face and the person behind the name Sycamore. I will be coming down with my children, possibly my wife, my dogs and other friends. Was down at Deep Creek today and it was a nice time, just me, the birds, the dragonfly's and the wind, again :-) Kat's Nightmare, your writing style and your provby Wizard - Deep Creek Hot Springs, Apple Valley, California
Yes Naked Man, I know what you mean, its a bummer when people try and paint a negative picture of others without any " real " solid reason to do so. Something to consider in regards to recent attacks on me. People many times just beleive what they want to beleive and solid evidence doesn't matter.by Wizard - Deep Creek Hot Springs, Apple Valley, California
These groups of people who have been argueing over access issues are not likely to see eye to eye anytime soon. Our friend Ron who hasn't posted much lately had worked toward putting a group of concerned springers together for the purpose of helping out down at DCHS. It is however a difficult thing to get the various people together in and organized way when they come from long distances many tiby Wizard - Deep Creek Hot Springs, Apple Valley, California
Ron, Thank you very much for your kind words. I have enjoyed very much your company and your gentle spirit. I am thankful for the well meaning and sensible friends I have met through this forum and at DCHS. My caring for DCHS will not be diminished by the scapegoat mentality that some who have come to this forum have shown. My good friends know my true nature. My wife who is my best friend, my chby Wizard - Deep Creek Hot Springs, Apple Valley, California
When I was there last week the Boy Scouts were there with thier tents all set up like they were going to camp. Are they exempt from the camping rule?by Wizard - Deep Creek Hot Springs, Apple Valley, California
Cred, You do not know me, you do not know what I have done at and around DCHS over the years I've visited. If you did, you would see that your description of me as a threat to DCHS is, utter nonsense. I find it interesting that this small trail off of route 3, which is little more than a half mile long is represented by some of you here as the Huge Magic Door that will doom the springs to destrucby Wizard - Deep Creek Hot Springs, Apple Valley, California
Cred, So what is Jobes history and is what you would describe just stories you have been told, or is it something that has been proven? Why does Jobe scare you?by Wizard - Deep Creek Hot Springs, Apple Valley, California
DCR, heck, even " I " don't know what that one means, gotcha :-)by Wizard - Deep Creek Hot Springs, Apple Valley, California
Thanks for the clarification DCR :-) GHEUYT!by Wizard - Deep Creek Hot Springs, Apple Valley, California
I must make a correction to my original post in this thread. Mike's second e-mail to me stated that I was a loser and a fool because of my association with " DCHS, INC. ". Mike Dejoooooooya, your such a toad :-)by Wizard - Deep Creek Hot Springs, Apple Valley, California
Yes DCR, summers are fine down at OZ :-) Your always putting those secret codes at the end of your post but since I was never in the FBI like you were, I must ask, what does RITCL mean :-)by Wizard - Deep Creek Hot Springs, Apple Valley, California
Cred, We already went over all of this. No one is gonna force you to access by way of the JF3 trail. You go your way and I'll go mine. Since your so down on trails done by the public without USFS consent then heres some advice for ya. You'll want to avoid the Bradford Ridge Trail completely. Stay off the Mo Fo hill bypass, the trail that wraps around the west side of Mo Fo Hill near the springs.by Wizard - Deep Creek Hot Springs, Apple Valley, California
Ok Cred, If your windows get shot out up in areas around the ranch I'm sure you will be remaining silent about it so as not to cause a fuss, yeah right.by Wizard - Deep Creek Hot Springs, Apple Valley, California
Ok, so its mesmerizing, so I missed one letter out of eleven, that ain't bad!by Wizard - Deep Creek Hot Springs, Apple Valley, California
Yes Katrina, they are wonderful to watch as they fly about, they are mezmerizing! No spell check on that last word :-)by Wizard - Deep Creek Hot Springs, Apple Valley, California
Now that you mention that Katrina I heard the same story yesterday down at the springs from the guy they talked to so your probably right.by Wizard - Deep Creek Hot Springs, Apple Valley, California
Well I spent another fine day down along Deep Creek. Found a nice pool in the stream to relax in. You know, it can be very peaceful when you spend time in the summer along the creek away from DCHS itself. The spot I found was great. I sat there soakin up the sun sun while sittin on the many smooth granite boulders along the stream. I never tire of looking down the water and seeing the shimmeringby Wizard - Deep Creek Hot Springs, Apple Valley, California
Sycamore, I be happy to address any point I have ever made here at the forum you feel was petty. Did I spell that last word correctly :-) Anyway, Mike Dejoooooooooooyia is an ignoramus, you will learn that for yourself as time goes by, flip flop :-)by Wizard - Deep Creek Hot Springs, Apple Valley, California