Re: Forest Service Fee Demonstration Site

<b>Please at least put some effort into formatting your posts. At the very least use some method to show what you are quoting!</b>

free our forests wrote:

> How does this parking fine differ from any of the others are
> society imposes for not complying with the law?

> This program is called the Fee demostration program and it is
> being run to test the publics [sic] willingness to comply with > user fees.

No, it's to test the public's willingness to <i>accept</i> the fees. The proper way to show non-acceptance is to complain to Congress.

> If you are being forced to comply by way of law, how is
> this a fair test. A recreation user who fails to display a
> Adventure pass recieves a Notice of noncomplience, not a
> ticket!

That is a ticket.

> The NoN has no legal value and was created to scare the
> public into buying a pass, the rememdy for the NoN.

That's a lie. The court has already decided that issue and it is the court's opinion that counts--not yours.

> The vendors get 25% for each daily pass and 11.6% for each
> yearly
> pass. I was told this by a vendor in the Angeles forest.

That's hardly enough money for it to be worth their trouble.

> The vendor system to me looks like the begining of private
> industryies making profit through the fee demo program.

Yeah, but you've already shown you are a fanatic in your opposition.

> As
> this program progresses the forest service is relying on more
> vendors to sell the passes.

They've always had a dependence of vendors.

> This is putting the forest
> service into more of a managerial position and in the end
> will mean less rangers
> in the field and more managers in the office.

That doesn't follow.

> I ask you Rick, who is the American Recreation coalition?
> Who is Darreck Crandel? When you can answer these two
> questions you will see the corporate connection.

All I see is your paranoia and fanaticism.

> Do you see how lame your answer is? Heaven forbid someone
> park there car and breath the fresh air, smell a flower and
> look at view without paying first.

Do you see how lame <i>your</i> answer is? Why do you conclude there is some right to park in the National Forests for free?

> Every American who drinks water, breaths air, uses wood,
> metal and other resources is partaking of the national
> forests, so should we not as a whole country pay to support
> these resouces not just those who recreate near the sources.

They do pay. The recreational users are only being asked to pay a little more for their additional use of the land. That's only fair.