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Re: Forest Service Fee Demonstration Site

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July 06, 2001 02:41PM
The Forest Service is basing the success of its fee projects on
compliance. The threatened $100.00 fine is nothing less than extortion!

How does this parking fine differ from any of the others are society
imposes for not complying with the law?

This program is called the Fee demostration program and it is being run to test the publics willingness to comply with user fees. If you are being forced to comply by way of law, how is this a fair test. A recreation user who fails to display a Adventure pass recieves a Notice of noncomplience, not a ticket!
The NoN has no legal value and was created to scare the public into buying a pass, the rememdy for the NoN.


Businesses that sell passes are selling-off our freedoms. These
vendors make a profit from the loss of one of our basic rights as
American citizens: our right to access our public lands.

They get 10% of the fee. That's hardly a big profit and hardly even worth
their time. REI doesn't even collect their part (you can get a pass for $27
there). The lands are still accessable without the pass anyway.

The vendors get 25% for each daily pass and 11.6% for each yearly
pass. I was told this by a vendor in the Angeles forest.
The vendor system to me looks like the begining of private industryies making profit through the fee demo program. As this program progresses the forest service is relying on more vendors to sell the passes. This is putting the forest service into more of a managerial position and in the end will mean less rangers
in the field and more managers in the office.

Fee Demo has nothing to do with the stewardship of public lands. It is,
in fact, the beginning of an attempt by corporate America to privatize
and commercialize our public lands.

That's just pathetic paranoia.

I ask you Rick, who is the American Recreation coalition?
Who is Darreck Crandel? When you can answer these two questions you will see the corporate connection.


Those who can't afford it will be barred from their own public lands.

You are exagerating. The program only bars them from parking their
cars.

Do you see how lame your answer is? Heaven forbid someone park there car and breath the fresh air, smell a flower and look at view without paying first.

We already support the public lands agencies and our public lands
through our federal taxes.

Tax support for the forests has declined tremendously and the lack of
funding has resulted in a lot of problems. Besides, why shouldn't people
using the forest provide more of the funding than those that don't? While
the public as a whole gets benefits from the forests those that use them
for recreation get more. Eight cents a day is hardly excessive.

Every American who drinks water, breaths air, uses wood, metal and other resources is partaking of the national forests, so should we not as a whole country pay to support these resouces not just those who recreate near the sources.
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