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July 22, 2003 09:54PM
If neither of you would suggest unstacking rocks as a DCV activity, why did both of you make numerous posts about it on a thread that asked for suggestions for DCV activities? And what about the reference to the USFS, as if you think they are against this activity? You don't see any hint of unfriendliness in both of your posts? I was very friendly about the whole thing, but neither of you wanted to let it go or to clarify how this relates to DCV activities. So, I finally called you both on it...

It was Ranger Brad who said he wanted to talk to you about that trail, Wizard,not anyone at the Bowen Ranch. So you are wrong to say that I know nothing but whisperings at the ranch. Did you ask about it or just assume? See the contradiction in that, Wizard?
Besides just saying that you "prefer" the landscape without stacked rocks, you went on about it being unfair for anyone to "have" to unstack them, and bring into question the validity of my and others' activity. Where did I ever say that I have any "unquestionable rights"? Are you suggesting here that I must not pick up a rock and put it on another rock, because it suddenly offends you and DCR? You didn't respond to the tightrope walker analogy that I used. Did you miss the point of it? Well, I said the last statement about it might be because I refuse to hate Mike Castro, saying it was just a thought, somewhat in jest, but I am truly confused about why you, Wizard, who go on and on about how friendly you are to people who "truly know you" would then proceed to show yourself so unfriendly as to suggest that my and others' harmless activity goes against nature, when you yourself have done more questionable things, such as trail building. Or why DCR would make post after post, even calling it litter, then suggest that I am being unfriendly when I ask why. Neither of you answered my questions, just kept going on about it.
Wizard, you show yourself as very friendly to me in person, and the same for AZ Mike, but the way you come across on the forum, in my opinion, is like a schoolyard bully trying to goad people into fights. Why? If you truly believe that AZ Mike has an anger management problem, and you are such a friendly and caring person, why call him names and work so hard to belittle him on the forum? Even though you and I have some obvious disagreements, I try to be fair and forthcoming with you, even speaking up in your defense recently with Laughing Bear, saying that we should not make assumptions about your motives when they may, indeed, be benign.

DCR...you are right, I have not heard you say that you hate Mike Castro. You do seem to prefer the company of people who hate him, trespass on his property, and etc., but here you have caught me making an assumption and I do apologize for it.

Maybe one of you would be willing to satisfy my curiosity...how come you never mentioned this aversion to rock stacking when you saw me stacking rocks? And why, again, did you spend so many posts making it clear that you do not feel that I have a right to do it, DCR saying it is worse than litter, when neither of you is suggesting it as a DCV activity?

Well, this thread was started to ask for suggestions for DCV activities to benefit DCHS. I am very hopeful that we can organize a graffiti-removal activity. (no objections to cleaning them, I hope) Perhaps other suggestions will surface once we all move on from arguments over rock-stacking. Is that acceptable to you, Wizard? DCR?
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