Naked Man, If you want to see what my thoughts are here on this forum, just take the time to read them. Having breaks in a post does not change the content. Its no secret that I'm not real interested in making sure that " everything " is spelled correctly or in proper and accepted form. Regarding truth, if what we call reality resides only in our individual thoughts then considering that every persons mind is differant then that, to me, would suggest that truth is merely a manifestation of the mind and not fixed. Is there a fixed truth beyond the thoughts of humans, I don't think that can be determined by the grey matter that " creates " what we perceive. Of course, most the people on this earth have views, in various forms, that suggest that truth " is " fixed. I have never come across a system of explanation of life that suggest a fixed truth that does not have flaws in its explanations. Oh well thats the slipery realm of philosophy. Sycamore, when I go to the meeting on this Sunday I will be there for the purpose of making progress on the formation of the group. If I am one of the people you have a pile of things to say things to, then I would suggest you speak whats on your mind through my private e-mail, hotspringswizard@hotmail.com , I will not be interested in arguing with you down at DCHS. I'm fine with a calm discussion.