Cred, You said something " seriously " wrong, demeaning and acusatory! Shame, shame, shame, is this some vestige of remeberances from your childhood when your parents said this to you over and over :-) I feel no shame for " anything " I have done for, and at, DCHS over the years. The cows and horses have absolutely hacked into the hillsides with thier 1000 pound bodies with four shovels for feet in the canyon where the route 3 trail goes as well as in many other places. The Bradford Ridge trail going from 173 to the springs was completely done by private parties. There's another trail for you to complain about Cred. I " support " my right to access freely any route I choose in the Forestry lands and I don't need your permission to do so! You call me selfish, you have not the slightest idea of the amount of work I've done in various forms to help DCHS over the years, not the least of which would be the countless bags of trash I've carried out and lots and lots of other cleanup. You should be spanked for using such a word to describe my deeds at DCHS. Bad boy or girl, shame, shame :-)