Also Rick I forgot to thank you for the link on Los Padres National Forest hot springs. I 've been to Sespe several times. Quite a good hike rom Mutau Flat. We used to do a screaming mountain bike ride down before the restrictions kicked in. It's a very remote nice hot spring getaway. There is another spring west of Sespe off of the Lion Valley trail called Willetts. I've never been there, but it shows up nicely on topozone.com. I'd love to hear from anyone who has been there.