Mr. Arizona's observations are quite enlightening in retrospect. Last summer I enjoyed soaking up north and the topic of conversation turned to the deep creek websites. People were really turned off by all of the mudslinging that was going on. Things have mellowed out since then and I am glad for that. I have met some really cool people on this site and we all share one thing in common, Deep Creek. I have not had the oppertunity to meet Az Mike but first imperssions via the internet are not so positive. Nevertheless, I wont hold that against him. I have enjoyed his handywork in stone soaking in the pools and I know that we share common ground. Peace to all and merry christmas