Hello Greg :-) Glad to see your still around. My friend did not specify exactly when it was. It didn't sound like it was that long ago, maybe in the last couple of months or less. He rides his horse up through the hills from the Mojave River area, around Deep Creek Rd. I saw Rick not too long ago down at DCHS. You didn't happen to be there that day. I wouldn't know if its the same people you are talking about. I just don't spend any time around people like that, since you usually can't talk any sense into them, especially when their real drunk. In the warmer months I can always hike along the creek and hit the quiet, peaceful and beautiful places that are plentiful up and down the creek from DCHS, where there's no one to tell you to put your clothes on, and no yelling and screaming drunks :-) Hope to catch you down there sometime Greg :-)