Sycamore, Thanks for that advice. I have only visited Blacks Beach just once with a friend and it was many years ago. Just a couple of months ago I visited San Onofre for the first time with Ron so I really don't know much about the overall atmosphere of either of these two places. I have always enjoyed the general spirit of DCHS. I have always felt very comfortable there and have come to know alot of visitors over the years. I will certainly consider Paul and your reservations about the atmosphere at Blacks :-)