KI, In one of your post above you wrote " FOJF.............acting like they are the police ". On that account, if you think they have done something illegal, then make a report with the appropriate agency. I mean really, I find it hard to tell who your really rooting for in all of this. Some post in the past you talk of the idea that the indian area being improperly affected by illegal OHV travel, and then, at other times your attacking Mohave Green and Laughing Bear on various points. FOJF are trying to help this situation of illegal OHV travel around the Cotton Wood Springs ACEC area. So my question to you KI is what is your objective regarding this, what are you trying to accomplish? So far, I think your post on this subject have been inconsistent, and confusing.