Quotejobe One week from monday I was at the springs and I got the blue hose and used it to clean the mud off the boulders that most use to travel over. I looked for the drain pipe but did not see it. However this visit it was visabe. It was down hill from where I expected it to be. Maybe ... if we buy some ruby slippers and tap our heals and say - water falls at the spings 3 times they will reappby Paul P. - Deep Creek Hot Springs, Apple Valley, California
Joe, thanks for the report! Has anyone ever reinstalled the PVC pipe that emanates from the Anniversary Pool down to the creek? That is always my favorite and provides a nice waterfall.by Paul P. - Deep Creek Hot Springs, Apple Valley, California
Unfortunately, the closure will probably be permanent. The Forest Service is suer concerned about liability and getting sued by the victims' families. I'm glad I had a chance to soak a lot there and at Remington back in the day.by Paul P. - California Hot Springs
Rattlesnake Ranch, first off, your son is no better than who you call "ignets". It is totally inappropriate to carve initials into a tree. No one should do that. For years there have been volunteers who have packed out trash and generally cleaned up the area adjacent to the springs. This continues to occur. However, because of the Internet and the fact that the springs are becoming morby Paul P. - Deep Creek Hot Springs, Apple Valley, California
neogeo, your link worked! I was able to download the entire book! Thanks for the scan. Annie, you should be also able to download it.by Paul P. - Deep Creek Hot Springs, Apple Valley, California
Annie, do a thorough search for "Bowen Escapades" on this forum. I vagely recall that someone here had a copy of it and was going to scan it in, perhaps for electronic copies.by Paul P. - Deep Creek Hot Springs, Apple Valley, California
Gracias Jose Rodrigo Baucum ;-)by Paul P. - Deep Creek Hot Springs, Apple Valley, California
I was at Blacks Beach last week. There is a very shrubbery cliff and hillside all along the beach. I was walking along and came across a cross a pretty large diamondback rattler moving across the informal trail. I probably would not have seen him if he didn't rattle first. I was lucky.by Paul P. - Deep Creek Hot Springs, Apple Valley, California
Quotejobe In this state if your income is less than 50k and you are over 60 you are exempt from paying income taxes. Are you talking about California or Florida? This is not true in California. Happy 420 Day!by Paul P. - Deep Creek Hot Springs, Apple Valley, California
Joe, thanks for the report.I had been wondering how conditions are there now. By the way, I'm sure you know taxes for most California Counties, including San Bernardino, are not due until Oct 16 this year!by Paul P. - Deep Creek Hot Springs, Apple Valley, California
There is a natural lag in time. It takes a while for the water to flow from the upper reaches of Deep Creek down to the Mojave Dam.So yeah, it could be raining, and the water level will not rise until the rainwater travels downstream from the upper reaches. In any event, it will be difficult to cross the creek for a while. Not recommended to hit the springs yet.....by Paul P. - Deep Creek Hot Springs, Apple Valley, California
Quoteskittles Wouldn't it be better to focus on the springs, nature, the weather, the conditions, and traditional clothing optional vibe rather than put out the idea that Deep Creek is overly sexualized? The latter would draw the wrong crowd. The first thing the Reddit moderator for the site should do is delete all the nude photos and take off the restriction in the beginning that only peopleby Paul P. - Deep Creek Hot Springs, Apple Valley, California
I think it would be wise NOT to promote or interview anyone regarding Deep Creek Hot Springs. There is already way too much information on the Internet about the springs. They have been loved to death in recent years, and that is not a good thing.by Paul P. - Deep Creek Hot Springs, Apple Valley, California
Yeah I'd like to know if its washed out as well before I go there. Baucum,any reports?by Paul P. - Deep Creek Hot Springs, Apple Valley, California
A little strange that he said he was going on a hike to either DCHS or a place in Soquel. These are about 400 miles from each other.by Paul P. - Deep Creek Hot Springs, Apple Valley, California
Judge for yourself....Even though the creek is at flood stage and water levels are peaking today, it will probably still be too high to cross for a while. If I was you, I'd postpone your trip until all the atmospheric rivers have passed and the creek level eventually drops. https://water.weather.gov/ahps2/hydrograph.php?gage=dkhc1&wfo=sgxby Paul P. - Deep Creek Hot Springs, Apple Valley, California
It's about time! I'm glad they are patrolling more. I have nothing against ORV users, but the problem is that many of them completely disregard the rules. They ride in areas that are clearly off limits to ORVs, doing countless environmental damage to both flora and fauna. If you read the comments in the Yahoo post, most of the comments are made by people who don't seem to have any problems withby Paul P. - Deep Creek Hot Springs, Apple Valley, California
Yeah Jobe's last Facebook post was Jan 6 2020.by Paul P. - Deep Creek Hot Springs, Apple Valley, California
Thanks for the report- haven't seen too many comments on the board lately. Regarding Jobe, I don't know if he's back in Florida with the grandkids, or maybe he is still around Apple Valley. I don't have any contact info for him- you might check with Van (Wizard) to see if he has his phone or email address. I know Jobe has a Facebook account (Rodney Joe Baucum) but I doubt he would be active thereby Paul P. - Deep Creek Hot Springs, Apple Valley, California
Does anyone know how this event turned out? I heard 3rd hand that LEOs invaded the campground!!!by Paul P. - Deep Creek Hot Springs, Apple Valley, California
Skittles, this time of the year is an excellent time to visit Deep Creek. Keep in mind that if the dsytime highs are too hot, soaking in the springs is not as comfortable as when the ambient air temperature is lower. But definitely don't go there this weekend. It will be packed with many, many people high on psychedelics!by Paul P. - Deep Creek Hot Springs, Apple Valley, California
I don't yet know the answer.Perhaps USFS will know.by Paul P. - Deep Creek Hot Springs, Apple Valley, California
QuoteSoCalHiker Sounds like a mess. Do they have a permit from the US Forest Circus? That's a good question...does the Forest Service require a permit for group visits to the springs??by Paul P. - Deep Creek Hot Springs, Apple Valley, California
Everyone, please be aware of this event at the springs from March 18-March 20. It would be a good time to avoid the springs. https://www.eventbrite.com/e/spring-equinox-hot-springs-trip-tickets-265378232437?aff=eand&fbclid=IwAR2eowqsxigLCOrWMHUOjaHx8JoxTgbTWL40Ud4dp4NdonlmsYzVOqdm5DEby Paul P. - Deep Creek Hot Springs, Apple Valley, California
Quoteskittles Thank you for the info. Question: Some friends and I were thinking of going to Deep Creek this weekend. With the incident is it safe now? Or would it be better to wait until it all pans out? We do not like drama in such a beautiful place. Skittles, as long as you stay away from Bowen Ranch and Mike Castro, it should be fine. Go to the new campground instead.by Paul P. - Deep Creek Hot Springs, Apple Valley, California
BG, Jobe and I and others agree that you need an attorney. It should be someone NOT local or even from within San Bernardino County. You could defintely get compensatory and punitive damages, and ultimately get Mike out of Bowen Ranch and sent to jail. I'm not a lawyer and dont know specifically how you could get a good one, but a bit of research on your part could get you some answers.by Paul P. - Deep Creek Hot Springs, Apple Valley, California
No doubt San Berdoo County officials are corrupt to some degree, but in any event, you should have requested a police report. Its not too late to do so. Also, document everything in writing. You've already described what happened on this forum, so save all that and write and save a lengthier account of what happened. I think you said there were no witnesses- surely someone else was at your campgrby Paul P. - Deep Creek Hot Springs, Apple Valley, California
QuoteChandraSpring Would you please clarify why I need a attorney of any sort ? Having an attorney and a witness to the shooting would greatly increase your chances of prosecuting him.by Paul P. - Deep Creek Hot Springs, Apple Valley, California
I'd also suggest getting an attorney.by Paul P. - Deep Creek Hot Springs, Apple Valley, California
Quotejobe I have just been informed that at 8:30am tomorrow at the courthouse in Barstow, Deptment B2. A hearing will be held to get a restraining order to protect Brent Gaddes from Mike Castro owner of Bowen ranch. Wow! Joe please keep us posted if you hear anything more about how the hearing went. Regarding the crazy guy at the springs, is he camping down there? I'll talk to my Rangerby Paul P. - Deep Creek Hot Springs, Apple Valley, California