Ah, 2020.by neogeo - Deep Creek Hot Springs, Apple Valley, California
if you don't already follow - give a look at Deep Creek Volunteers (the new cohort) on Instagram to see the incredible work these guys have been doing on removing the graffiti its really greatby neogeo - Deep Creek Hot Springs, Apple Valley, California
Anatranik, the "new parking campground" _is_ the old parking campground - I know, its confusing. The new campground took over 1/2 of Bowen Ranch's old area, the parking and camping area of BR is now the parking camping area of the new "business" next door. The hike is a bit further now if you park at Bowen Ranch, you have to hike around the old parking area. The hike from theby neogeo - Deep Creek Hot Springs, Apple Valley, California
Um, Paul P., do you go to Deep Creek anymore? 420 Beach, Get Naked Beach, it's been years of solid DCHS tradition at this point!by neogeo - Deep Creek Hot Springs, Apple Valley, California
miss ya, Wizard miss the springs crazy yearby neogeo - Deep Creek Hot Springs, Apple Valley, California
Yes, a woman in her early 40s died yesterday of heat exhaustion hiking in Malibu Creek state park, in the Santa Monica mountains. After that, they closed the Santa Monica mountain park trails. Today they closed all the nearby National Forests, including SBNF - so Deep Creek is officially closed to all access due to extreme fire danger with the heat. I'm still seeing people on the interwebs blabbiby neogeo - Deep Creek Hot Springs, Apple Valley, California
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The notice was sent by a local resident and people reposted it - asking for public comment on the Campsite proposal, with liquor sales and store. The email addresses on the poster seem to be defunct for most people, and whatever email were sent have not been acknowledged. This was the gist of the post: Deep Creek Camp PROJ-2020-00015 AP No: 0433-101-01-0000 Conditional Use Permit toby neogeo - Deep Creek Hot Springs, Apple Valley, California
And now Joshua Tree National Park has closed down completely to visitors. I saw notice today that hot springs like Bagby, Umpqua, and Cougar (Terwilliger) are all closed.by neogeo - Deep Creek Hot Springs, Apple Valley, California
He is in charge of nothing obviously. Since things have gotten completely out of control due to his incompetence and worse. Celebrating that - Totally delusional. People are dying and he could have prevented some of this. He still could, and ... nothing. I have lost three people I know personally so far. So actually worse than delusional American Gigolo. To be clear - I was breaking thingsby neogeo - Deep Creek Hot Springs, Apple Valley, California
It is obviously not worth responding to this. Jobe in the other current post is more or less local to the springs. Those he found down at the springs are more or less local to the springs. That would be the first concern for anyone who knows anything about how people are being advised to react to the current situation - if you are not local, you should not be traveling to remote places where hospby neogeo - Deep Creek Hot Springs, Apple Valley, California
Don't go to the hot springs until the social distancing order is lifted. Only if you are local to the hot springs would that be OK - don't drive to far away communities during this moment even to hike in the wilderness. And if you are hiking in Deep Creek as an area, what are the chances that the hot springs will be possible to visit and keep social distancing in place? Most other hot springsby neogeo - Deep Creek Hot Springs, Apple Valley, California
I've noticed people on social media like Facebook giving them a hard time, and also noting they don't have permits for such a business. Don't know the truth of that.by neogeo - Deep Creek Hot Springs, Apple Valley, California
Their website is also down/gone. I just tried to check it.by neogeo - Deep Creek Hot Springs, Apple Valley, California
No Bowen allows camping again - both at the old prices - 5/day, 10/night stays.by neogeo - Deep Creek Hot Springs, Apple Valley, California
PP, that's the old road down to the back parking area at Bowen. Now no longer owned by Bowen. They entered the Ranch, paid for parking, made their way to where the road turns and it used to be all washed out and confronted that truck and the new fencing - the old main parking area now the property of the new "campground." Bowen lets people park before the road turns down to the old parkby neogeo - Deep Creek Hot Springs, Apple Valley, California
These are red herrings. I am not of course trying to make the point that the springs should be kept off the internet. This forum would have to go away if that were the case, many learn about the springs here. I learned much about the springs here back in the day. After first learning about the springs in Lee Baxandall's nude guide when I was a teenager. And then in general travel guide books to Sby neogeo - Deep Creek Hot Springs, Apple Valley, California
Jobe, I know how much you do and have done for the springs. I can't claim to do 1/10th as much, but I not only clean the springs myself each time I go, I have organized at this point a bunch of group cleans of the springs or have been part of organizing them, and have tried to be a link to some younger generations of springers who are coming up and caring for the place. That is all good that therby neogeo - Deep Creek Hot Springs, Apple Valley, California
"Open Soon for Overnight Camping, Large Groups, Equestrian Groups, & Special Events Welcome!" Oh boy. I don't think the link should be publicized. Which is the point of the website being a bad idea. It is capitalizing off the springs for a private business that may impact the springs and not care for them.by neogeo - Deep Creek Hot Springs, Apple Valley, California
Bowen Ranch informed me last year that the new owner was going to put up a website, advertise staying and camping at the springs, and that has happened. Website is up. I don't want to post the link here, don't want to publicize it in that way. You can find it googling some combo of dchs and campground etc. They provide a map to hot springs but also to the warm springs on this website, and photos,by neogeo - Deep Creek Hot Springs, Apple Valley, California
great report jobe thanks !by neogeo - Deep Creek Hot Springs, Apple Valley, California
Phoenix/Arizona Pool is definitely underwater, this past weekend.by neogeo - Deep Creek Hot Springs, Apple Valley, California
Not good. A shame as well for a historical property, the Ranch, to break itself up. I remember when you taught me, Wizard, about the cold spring oasis down below the parking area of the Ranch. This was the main water source for the Ranch back in the day I think. It seems part of the parcel now sold off to new ownership.by neogeo - Deep Creek Hot Springs, Apple Valley, California
Must be beautiful Wizard. From where I live, when I hike up the local trails to the high points, I can see past the local ranges to the San Gabriels as far as Mt. Baldy in the distance, and seeing them all covered with white yesterday was beautiful.by neogeo - Deep Creek Hot Springs, Apple Valley, California
So yeah, I did make a visit to the Victor Valley humane society, to visit with their dogs. I may be needing to come back real soon, as I didn't leave with any of them but one of them won't get out of my mind. So I didn't have too much time for a long springs visit with these shorter days but did visit. (It was awesome, super relaxing day, almost no trash though a friend did a small clean up, aby neogeo - Deep Creek Hot Springs, Apple Valley, California
I don't though I saw men working on the side of his property before you reach the house coming from Bowen Ranch Road from the city. I hope to get out there within the week and see what is changing. Been preoccupied with some family health situations, and starting to look for a new dog - thinking though of maybe visiting the Victor Valley APL, so that would get me out there too !by neogeo - Deep Creek Hot Springs, Apple Valley, California
That's a good article, lots more information and puts it in perspective for sure as you have been doing Wizard. I thought it odd to see this on the mainstream national news - I saw it on CNN first. I am remembering being on a trip six years ago this week, I was in Copenhagen, Denmark for the first time. And walking around town with my wife. And it started to get windy. And I thought, maybeby neogeo - Deep Creek Hot Springs, Apple Valley, California
https://www.cnn.com/2019/11/04/us/california-dam-danger/index.htmlby neogeo - Deep Creek Hot Springs, Apple Valley, California
I saw that big group too paulespo and asked one of them online directly if with a group that big - did they volunteer at all, did they clean the place. At least online, they assured me that they did.by neogeo - Deep Creek Hot Springs, Apple Valley, California