I think the local folks would be able to confirm, but that's correct, the immediate area around DCHS it is not a designed OHV area. The following two links show where OHV use is allowed. http://www.fs.usda.gov/recarea/sbnf/recreation/ohv/recarea/?recid=74079&actid=93 http://www.fs.usda.gov/Internet/FSE_DOCUMENTS/stelprdb5202570.pdfby mxa - Deep Creek Hot Springs, Apple Valley, California
Agreed. Now back to the rat problem ... there certainly can't be just one, can there? I'm kidding.by mxa - Deep Creek Hot Springs, Apple Valley, California
QuoteDLM The only ONE, not some, that I figure you could be referring to is boobies but if you find that disrespectful I think your nuts and my four and five year old daughters would really offend you because they are under the impression that that is what they are called as well. I am not trying to be disrespect your opinion I just think labeling that as a "jerk off site" is a much moby mxa - Deep Creek Hot Springs, Apple Valley, California
If you hover over the photos, if your browser supports it, some of the descriptions are somewhat less than respectful - well maybe just one description :-). Also, there is no blog or creative content, just a collection of pictures likely assembled from Google images, which also "may" technically constitute a violation of copyright.by mxa - Deep Creek Hot Springs, Apple Valley, California
Valid points. Maybe a good way to get back at those taking pictures of others in the nude without permission is to take some of them and post them online, much like recent cases with people taking photos of offenders on public transit. Personally I don't agree with bans as it undermines our already diminishing freedoms.by mxa - Deep Creek Hot Springs, Apple Valley, California
Now that I think about it, that's very true, but then again that applies to most things in life - there always is some cowboy for every venue. I guess some people need to feel important, even if they are not. QuotePaul P. And the icing on ther cake was I got to witness a gorgeous nude model doing a photo shoot! Pure joy! So we should look for the two of you in which magazine? I'm kidding ...by mxa - Deep Creek Hot Springs, Apple Valley, California
Hopefully the exception and out of line to say the least. I would have reminded him that's it's a public beach and a free country. I was there over a weekend and used my cell phone near the volleyball area a few times, and yes, took a few pictures - but without anyone in the frame. My dad had a similar incident when he came out to visit. It was a clothed beach though. He was walking on the beachby mxa - Deep Creek Hot Springs, Apple Valley, California
That sounds like a scene out of a bad movie or a news clip from the middle east - marines on one side, rangers on the other, people harassed and displaced - based on description not an ideal spot to relax. Maybe the south side of the fence some day will follow the fate of Gunnison, Sandy Hook. I noticed Black's has a Tumblr page (http://blacksbeachbares.tumblr.com/), however the format is notby mxa - Deep Creek Hot Springs, Apple Valley, California
Learned UCSD has had part ownership in Black's beach since 1967 and they are funding most of the cost of the lifeguards to the tune of $0.5M this year. They justified it due to cuts in the city's budget, the fact that they own part of the beach and that so many faculty and students go there ... making it their responsibility to provide the necessary services to the public. Spent the weekend inby mxa - Deep Creek Hot Springs, Apple Valley, California
In terms of the virtuous contributions, they gave us fine engineering, damn good beer and the Free Body Culture. I actually have never been to Germany but was born and grew up in Europe. Spent my childhood on the beaches of the Baltic sea before we moved to Austria ... have some great memories from our family camping trips; nudity in a park or at the beach was the norm.by mxa - Deep Creek Hot Springs, Apple Valley, California
Let us know how it was, especially with the high temperatures. We didn't hear back from Stuart - may be MIA. On a side note I was reading that camping by the creek was permitted until the 70's then revoked after a raid turned up a few wanted folks. I originally thought it was for environmental reasons or that they didn't have enough resources to patrol the area and enforce permits.by mxa - Deep Creek Hot Springs, Apple Valley, California
As an alternative to water, I would recommend also trying coconut water. It worked better for me when I was training for the SF marathon two years back, aside from gel packs. High in potassium although lower on sodium. On a hot day drinking only pure water is a bad idea ... electrolytes/salts are needed as well. Heck, a salty snack will do.by mxa - Deep Creek Hot Springs, Apple Valley, California
Question on nude sunbathing posed to 8,600 people around the world ... may explain the high textile to nude ratio at DCHS :-) ... we are way behind other nations. However if the question was about nude soaking, I think Japan would be further up on the list. If it was about nudism in general, perhaps Croatia would be first. Germany: 15 % India: 8% Spain: 8% Sweden: 6% Denmark: 6% Mexico:by mxa - Deep Creek Hot Springs, Apple Valley, California
Did you make it down Stuart? How did it go?by mxa - Deep Creek Hot Springs, Apple Valley, California
Interesting. Knew there was a legal reason. So technically one *could* be cited for maintaining the trail, which would lead me to think most of the work would take place during the off season. We actually spent Saturday there and did witness the life guards warning some folks to turn around on the cliffs or "to raise their hands if they needed rescue" over the loud speaker. Sunday we acby mxa - Deep Creek Hot Springs, Apple Valley, California
I would put in a legal disclaimer ... seems unfortunate that folks or their families sue everyone and everything these days for their own stupidity and it takes just one incident gone bad. On a somewhat related note, I like how at Black's they put up a "no public access" sign at the top of the glider trail to cover their butts for things such as these, as is the case with other trails aby mxa - Deep Creek Hot Springs, Apple Valley, California
Stop it, or I'll be tempted to relocate. I work in medicine ... Scripps looks so very convenient, would be more so after work to unwind after a stressful day :-)by mxa - Deep Creek Hot Springs, Apple Valley, California
When we went, the 405 southbound where it meets the 5 was a parking lot all the way past Carlsbad. The GPS (good old technology again) recognized the heavy traffic early and attempted to reroute us along the PCH near Dana Point, which was another parking lot. There didn't appear to be any accidents, just heavy volume. It took about 4 hours with a pit stop for food. We didn't take the 73 toll roadby mxa - Deep Creek Hot Springs, Apple Valley, California
We stayed for two days. The place really picked up after 2 pm on Sunday but still relaxing. Probably an exception, the Japanese as a culture are comfortable with nudity :-) ... and they love their hot springs, crazy TV shows and many other interesting things. My wife at the time was doing a lot of business in Tokyo a few years back and so I joined her for a month there. Her coworker invited uby mxa - Deep Creek Hot Springs, Apple Valley, California
Reminds me of the Tami Ashcraft story ... if you are a sailor you would be familiar with it. Tami and her boyfriend were sailing to San Diego when they got caught up in a hurricane and their sailboat capsized. She was knocked out and came to a day later to find her boyfriend missing and rigging and electronics destroyed. She built a make shift sail and set her course to Hawaii using celestial navby mxa - Deep Creek Hot Springs, Apple Valley, California
We are at Blacks as I write this and wow ... nice but oh so many people. The waves and weather is awesome but we are more amused by the man with headphones dancing in the water up and down the beach by the nets. I wish I could film it but can't for obvious reasons. If that's you Paul I apologize.by mxa - Deep Creek Hot Springs, Apple Valley, California
I was kidding. Hope you made it down and back up okay especially with the heat.by mxa - Deep Creek Hot Springs, Apple Valley, California
Back in '99 I was working for a startup back home in SF and we had non-defined hours, or rules for that matter. My first nude beach experiences centered around leaving work at 1 pm and hiking down to the beach. I would bring my "office" with me. A laptop with extra batteries and wireless card (6 lbs), phone (14 oz), portable seat (6 lbs), sun umbrella (2 lbs), water and food (3 lbs). Veby mxa - Deep Creek Hot Springs, Apple Valley, California
Never been to Black's - neither has she ... on a good weekend, what is the visitor mix like? We were actually also contemplating taking a flight to Reno as another alternative, although it will be likely crowded as well at Secret Cove with the added annual potluck. As mentioned in another post, I like the place given that it's almost 100% nude with a good mix of visitors and a nice place to fby mxa - Deep Creek Hot Springs, Apple Valley, California
Has anybody experienced DCHS over the labor day weekend in past years? I was contemplating taking a girl friend of mine down but imagine the crowds may be substantial, and substantially clothed. If we decide, we may just move up the creek a bit and just go for a day. Looks like the temperature may be in the mid 90's as well.by mxa - Deep Creek Hot Springs, Apple Valley, California
Maybe what the ranger needs is a dose of an unexpected mass nudist invasion ... http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2187511/Mass-skinny-dippers-splash-lake-launch-secret-swimming-club.htmlby mxa - Deep Creek Hot Springs, Apple Valley, California
Probably not much help, but found this map of open routes around Bowen: http://wanr.earthbiz.net/DCHSaccess.jpgby mxa - Deep Creek Hot Springs, Apple Valley, California
Sunday was even busier than Saturday. Parking lot was crowded but still plenty of spots left. When I arrived everyone was pushed back due to the high water tide. The volleyball poles were submerged. Same friendly crowd and group of locals. Nude sunbathers slightly outnumbering clothed with majority towards the south. Most of the single men and women tended to stay towards the center. As well theby mxa - Deep Creek Hot Springs, Apple Valley, California
Saturday the beach was much more busy. A good mix of singles, men and women, as well as couples and families. The further south one went the less clothes were seen and the more local the crowd. Interestingly of the clothed couples at least the females were topless, which added to the comfortable mix on the beach. Mixed aged group of men and women playing volleyball all day. However few if any folby mxa - Deep Creek Hot Springs, Apple Valley, California
For those that find DCHS too hot in the summer: Arrived Friday afternoon just before 3 pm. There were about 15 cars parked in the dirt lot at the end of the road. Weather was in the low 70s with a cool breeze. Walked down the beach - very easy. On the way down, passed four college students headed back to the lot. I was following what appeared to be a very drunk man in jeans in a jacket smokingby mxa - Deep Creek Hot Springs, Apple Valley, California