Hi Neogeo, Thank you for the very informative report. It's been a few years since I've been to the hot springs. It was a special place that I shared with my (now ex) girlfriend and then I couldn't bring myself to go back for a while. Very upsetting to hear about the endangered toad sign. WTH is wrong with people? I still have pictures of the sign from my first trip there. I'm planning toby abhishekspeare - Deep Creek Hot Springs, Apple Valley, California