My hope is that you told Ranger Burns about Lance and his crew, and not campers in general. While it is illegal to camp at the Springs, most people are responsible campers. It's a small minority of visitors doing the damage. What Fred Burns can do about that is questionable, unless his plan is to confront Lance face-to-face with a warrant. Speaking of warrants, there has also been plenty of iby Naked Man - Deep Creek Hot Springs, Apple Valley, California
I hate to name names, but Saturday morning one Lance and his buddy rode his dirt bike all the way down the Goat Trail and parked it very near the beach. I saw it. Reports from campers Sunday morning say these two knuckleheads and two more of same mental deficiency who joined them, got drunk that night, were loud and and obnoxious, and were disturbing the peace for everyone. To top it off, theyby Naked Man - Deep Creek Hot Springs, Apple Valley, California
Wizard: I am pleased to hear you talked to Ranger Burns about the illegal OHV activities in the DCHS area. The damage to the goat trail and adjacent hillsides has become extensive over time, the first dirtbike damage occurring in April of 2007, by my recollection and photos. As you know, I photo-document all damage, vandalism, and graffitti on the trails and in and around the Springs wheneverby Naked Man - Deep Creek Hot Springs, Apple Valley, California
For several weeks now, dirtbikes have been crossing the Goat Trail and are putting a lot of new scars on the hills. If you've been down the trail lately, you've seen the damage. Got any ideas on how to stop it?by Naked Man - Deep Creek Hot Springs, Apple Valley, California
I've been working on chipping the paint off the rocks by the creek with some good results. Although chemical paint removers would work (I tried it), I found that since the rocks had a somewhat flaky outer layer, a rock or hammer would chip off the outer layer of granite without too much trouble, thus the paint too, leaving the rocks looking fairly natural in the process with no toxic fumes andby Naked Man - Deep Creek Hot Springs, Apple Valley, California
Fireman: I estimate there were 70-80 people there on Saturday. It was a pretty hot day! Too bad you missed it. The group I told you about when I saw you on the trail that morning, was a little loud at first but mellowed by the end of the day and were even helping to pick up trash before they hiked out. There were no other incidents that day that I'm aware of. On Sunday I guestimate there weby Naked Man - Deep Creek Hot Springs, Apple Valley, California
Yes. It's true. Motorcycles are routinely going down the goat trail then scaring up the sides of the moutains on either side of the trial in several places. It's maddening! This has been happening for the past several weeks since warmer weather broke. It happens nearly every weekend. They go thru the swinging gate at the head of the goat trail (lower parking lot area) and make their way past thby Naked Man - Deep Creek Hot Springs, Apple Valley, California
Mother Earth, that is.by Naked Man - Deep Creek Hot Springs, Apple Valley, California
As of last Saturday, there was a growing mountain of trash accumilating at the Springs. Tomorrow, Saturday the 21st, I'll bag it up, but there's far too much for one person to carry out. If you feel so-inspired to carry a bag or two out of there on your next visit to the Springs, it'd be a good thing. Your mother would be proud.by Naked Man - Deep Creek Hot Springs, Apple Valley, California
I took some pictures of the fire -- the SMOKE -- rising into the sky due west of the Springs last Saturday. I'm not sure where to post them yet... Help, Mr Wizard! There were 50-60 people at the Springs that day, and since none of us new exactly how far away the fire actually was, people were getting a little scared to say the least. At least HALF left prematurely around 2:30pm when the smokeby Naked Man - Deep Creek Hot Springs, Apple Valley, California
Here's what I know: When I arrived at the Springs last Sunday (March 31st), I was told that the very same boys who I saw there the previous Sunday with 12-gauge shotguns slung over their shoulders had later that day (Sunday afternoon, the 14th) got into a fight with someone at the Springs and were subsequently reported to Mike (and the Sheriff) where a 4-man SWAT team greeted the boys at the Bowby Naked Man - Deep Creek Hot Springs, Apple Valley, California
WOW! That was some kinda 'shaker' we had yesterday, eh?! I was in Valencia when it hit at 11:15am, and it rolled/swayed very noticably east-west for a good 20 seconds. I held onto a doorway between 2 rooms of the structure I was in and watched in awe as the light fixtures and Xmas ornaments hanging from the ceiling swayed like pendulums for what seems like an eternity. The quake slowly rocked tby Naked Man - Deep Creek Hot Springs, Apple Valley, California
Well, Mr Laughingbear. I just happened to be in Apple Valley about 2 weeks ago and picked up a copy of the local free newspaper -- I forget it's name, but it's something like "Apple Valley News". On the front page was an article with the headline featuring the name "Gail Fry" which immediately caught my attention. I also don't remember the exact wording on that either. Thaby Naked Man - Deep Creek Hot Springs, Apple Valley, California
Dear Jobe, Words of Wisdom: God corrects and governs man. Men may pardon, but God alone reforms the sinner. God is not separate from the wisdom He bestows. The talents He gives we must improve. Calling on Him to forgive our work badly done or left undone, implies the vain supposition that we have nothing to do but to ask pardon, and that afterwards we shall be free to repeat the offence. Sorby Naked Man - Deep Creek Hot Springs, Apple Valley, California
When the 'planetary alignment' event happened a short time ago -- May 5, 2000, if you recall -- there was huge speculation that the alignment of the planets would affect the Earth with widespread earthquakes, etc. Lessons from Newton from www.spaceweather.com The force of gravity is inversely proportional to the square of the distance between two bodies. This means that at twice the distance tby Naked Man - Deep Creek Hot Springs, Apple Valley, California
Jobe, Interesting topic, Quitclaim deeds. I'm hoping you've noticed what both definitions say, and is in agreement with what I originally said, that a quitclaim deed ONLY conveys interest in real property in which the grantor HAS title. As the 2nd definition also says it's a tool to clear up a title as well, but DOES NOT IMPLY the grantor actually has a claim or interest in said real property.by Naked Man - Deep Creek Hot Springs, Apple Valley, California
I'm gonna have to stick to the idea that POSSESSION is the operative concept here. Mike has possession of the buildings AND the land on which they stand. Simple logic would tell you that what happened to the Moss house would apply to the Bowen buildings as well. They fall into the ownership of the person(s) who own the land they're standing on. To come along years later, after Mike has ownedby Naked Man - Deep Creek Hot Springs, Apple Valley, California
Wizard, Let me CLARIFY my statement about Mike: "I like Mike" AS OWNER OF THE BOWEN RANCH. To tell the truth, I hardly know Mike. We've talked only a few times, shared a cup of coffee or two. But I like the way Mike greets me at I enter the Ranch. I'm totally OK with paying $4 to get to park there. Occasionally I bring others and still gladly pay $4 a head to get in. I've neby Naked Man - Deep Creek Hot Springs, Apple Valley, California
Katrina, I could care less about your alleged claims to ownership. You don't own any property in the area, pay no taxes on any land in the area, pay no rent or mortgage on property, and have no leases on any property in the area. Furthermore, apparently you and Wm Schwiss (sp?) were squatting on land and doing illegal things including trying to defraud the gov't regarding some sort of miningby Naked Man - Deep Creek Hot Springs, Apple Valley, California
Wizard/Katrina, Other than this bogus quit claim deed, what claim whatsoever do you have? I'll tell you: NONE. You don't own land in the area, you never paid rent on the Bowen Ranch, you never bought any of the parcels in the area, you never paid a cent in rent or mortgages. YOUR NAMES APPEAR NOWHERE in the records of ownership. This is beyond dispute. You have no previous or current inteby Naked Man - Deep Creek Hot Springs, Apple Valley, California
Let's not forget: "Golf balls" FIRST, "Pebbles" second.by Naked Man - Deep Creek Hot Springs, Apple Valley, California
Wizard, It's not about the $150. It's about your MOTIVE.by Naked Man - Deep Creek Hot Springs, Apple Valley, California
Wizard, Once again, you missed the point of the question, which was: WHY would you get involved in DONATING monies for a quit claim deed on SOMEONE ELSE'S PROPERTY, knowing FULL WELL Katrina never owned it, paid for it, or had any legal interest in the property EVER?by Naked Man - Deep Creek Hot Springs, Apple Valley, California
Wizard & Katrina, Perhaps you can explain how or WHY you got a quit claim deed on property you never lived on or paid for. That's the only question worth asking.by Naked Man - Deep Creek Hot Springs, Apple Valley, California
Wizard, Lemme get this right: You bought interest in a Quit Claim Deed on someone else's property "...for the purpose of hopefully seeing The Historic Bowen Ranch become a non-profit entity for the benifit of all hotspringers, not a business that depends on paying visitors, a business that benifits by advertising for more visitors, paying customers". You must be assuming the deed hasby Naked Man - Deep Creek Hot Springs, Apple Valley, California
Wizard, Seems to me what you've done is equivalent to buying a deed to property that neither you or the party selling the deed has any legal interest in. It's kinda like a neighbor of yours offering to sell you a deed for the property down the street that he doesn't own. More precisely, it's like you've gone back to previous owners of property on your street and persuaded them to sell you a deby Naked Man - Deep Creek Hot Springs, Apple Valley, California
Forget the "disclaimer". A Quit Claim Deed has that built in. A Quit Claim Deed says basically, "IF and only IF we (the conveyor of the Deed) have any actual interest in the property, THEN we transfer that interest over to you." In this case, as I've said time and again, The DCHS, Inc Quit Claim Deed "...is worth about as much as the paper it's printed on."by Naked Man - Deep Creek Hot Springs, Apple Valley, California
Damit-chole! If yer heddin' up the coast, when you get to San Luis Obispo, check out Avila (nude) Beach! Very C O O L. Easy to find, too. And if ya go that fer, you'll run into the Hearst Castle on yer way up north. Then there's Big Sur way up there and campgrounds at Plasket Creek near B E A U T I F U L Pacific Grove on the way to Big Sur. The coastal route (Highway 1) is a really nice cuby Naked Man - Deep Creek Hot Springs, Apple Valley, California
Wizard: Explain to me why it appears that the only people who can't seem to get along with Mike Castro are the very same people who are directly linked to DCHS, Inc? Or inversely, Why does it appear anyone associated with DCHS, Inc are part of a declared effort to remove Mike from his property?by Naked Man - Deep Creek Hot Springs, Apple Valley, California