Not the ideal plan to hike out during the hottest time of day. Hiking out is uphill. 2pm in July could potentially be 100 degrees. In any case, bring plenty of water.by andrew - Deep Creek Hot Springs, Apple Valley, California
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Investigators Seek Tips for Suspicious Fires in Deep Creek Release Date: Nov 13, 2014 SAN BERNARDINO, Calif., November 13, 2014 – During the evening of June 29th, 2014, firefighters extinguished seven small fires along the Pacific Crest Trail near Hesperia. Investigators believe the fires were human caused, and are asking for the public’s help with any information on the fires. Iby andrew - Deep Creek Hot Springs, Apple Valley, California
$1000 fine for littering. California Penal Code Section 374.4 http://law.onecle.com/california/penal/374.4.htmlby andrew - Deep Creek Hot Springs, Apple Valley, California
Quotemellowguy Similarly, when the Naturist Society poses as Rule #1 that people at DCHS respect each others' privacy, some of the responders here are really clutching at straws to mutilate that rule into a distinction between the pools themselves versus the surrounding areas. The core and very focus of the Naturist Society's rules for DCHS are the pools; if the Society meant that no privacy shby andrew - Deep Creek Hot Springs, Apple Valley, California
Your narrow definition of sexual behavior would make Mr. Clinton proud, but is not consistent with the ideology of The Naturist Society which states that naturist settings are appropriate for families with children.by andrew - Deep Creek Hot Springs, Apple Valley, California
There is a difference between the general DCHS area and the pools. Every party (individual, couple or group) generally finds a spot to put their stuff and hang out. Nobody should attach themselves to another party or follow them around without being invited to do so. The pools are communal. Even the volunteers who maintain them don't claim any exclusive rights.by andrew - Deep Creek Hot Springs, Apple Valley, California
Many people visit DCHS and not all of them are well behaved. Illegal camping, illegal fires, vandalism, and littering are all too common. I agree that the guy who followed you around (7 years ago) behaved inappropriately. Your wrote, "Somehow, I am pretty sure the people who drafted that suggested rule of etiquette see things just as I do." I doubt it. In your previous message yoby andrew - Deep Creek Hot Springs, Apple Valley, California
Wizard is right. The Forest Service rules state "No Camping is permitted within 1 mile of Deep Creek. " Note that this refers to Deep Creek, not just the hot springs. The rules also state: "No fires, campfires or stoves allowed in the Deep Creek Drainage." http://www.fs.fed.us/r5/sanbernardino/recreation/deepcreek/index.shtml In addition, there is a seasonal ban on aby andrew - Deep Creek Hot Springs, Apple Valley, California
Wow. You had quite an adventurous couple of days. Too bad you hadn't found it on a nicer day... the helicopter ride might have been more enjoyable. Amazing that the bomb has been sitting there almost 60 years, undisturbed (or at least unexploded) by humans, animals, or erosion.by andrew - Deep Creek Hot Springs, Apple Valley, California
Murray wrote: > I didn't estimate the number of clothed vs. naked soakers, but > naked soakers were in a majority early on and then gradually > the balanced moved to the bathing suits. Both groups > comingled very easily. In fact, it was interesting to watch > some people move from the clothed to the naked group over the > course of the day. I’ve noticed this too. Maybeby andrew - Deep Creek Hot Springs, Apple Valley, California
I agree. Wind and solar sounds a lot smarter than burning natural gas or coal, and the desert is well-suited with lots of wind, sun and abundant BLM land. Sounds like a good idea to me.by andrew - Deep Creek Hot Springs, Apple Valley, California
That's true. With idling, stop-and-go traffic, hills, etc., neither the gasoline engine nor the diesel engine would achieve the mileage that they did on the test track. Both the gasoline and diesel cars were tested under the same conditions so the comparison is valid. The diesel got 44% better fuel economy.by andrew - Deep Creek Hot Springs, Apple Valley, California
Spending 17% more for fuel which yields 30% more energy output isn't worth it? How about if a gallon of milk was $2 and a half-gallon was $1.50. The half-gallon is 50 cents cheaper, so it must be a better deal? Here's another example showing 44% more efficiency from diesel. Ford Fiesta Gets 75 MPG Diesel and 52 MPG Gasoline http://www.theautochannel.com/news/2006/09/04/020700.html I don'tby andrew - Deep Creek Hot Springs, Apple Valley, California
Diesel may actually be cheaper when comparing MPG. "Thanks to its higher energy content and its efficient combustion process, diesel performance enables cars to travel at least 30% farther on a gallon of fuel than comparable gasoline models." http://www.grinningplanet.com/2005/04-12/diesel-vs-gasoline-article.htmby andrew - Deep Creek Hot Springs, Apple Valley, California
Breaking an axle in the middle of nowhere would suck. I would err on the side of caution.by andrew - Deep Creek Hot Springs, Apple Valley, California
Paul P. wrote: > By Byron King: > > Under California law, it is illegal for PGE to buy > electricity generated from coal or natural gas. > I doubt this is truthful. What is the chapter and section of this law? Common sense would suggest that such a policy would literally pull the plug on the California economy. It is also inconsistent with this recent PG&E press release aby andrew - Deep Creek Hot Springs, Apple Valley, California
Interesting topic. My first thought is that most hot springs in the United States are scattered throughout several western states -- Hot Springs, Arkansas being a notable exception. That would suggest that that the viability of geothermal is limited to relatively few parts of the country. That said, as a small piece of the renewable energy puzzle, geothermal is an interesting topic. The foby andrew - Deep Creek Hot Springs, Apple Valley, California