The story related by Laughing Bear of an amobic encephalitis death at Deep Creek is incorrect. In 1976 a family visited hot springs all over the western United States; their daughter contracted ameobic encephalitis at one of the many hot springs they soaked in. Deep Creek Hot Springs was one of the locations the family visited. The girl surivived the disease. It was never determined where theby katrina - Deep Creek Hot Springs, Apple Valley, California
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Another news article. This one about mountain lions coming in closer to town and killing pets. http://www.vvdailypress.com/cgi-bin/newspro/viewnews.cgi?newsid1030116998,96193,by katrina - Deep Creek Hot Springs, Apple Valley, California
Due to the drought and the fires, the animals are coming to town and probably the springs. Be on the lookout and maybe at least carry a walking stick. http://www.vvdailypress.com/cgi-bin/newspro/viewnews.cgi?newsid1029945612,74042,by katrina - Deep Creek Hot Springs, Apple Valley, California
Sycamore, I have presented evidence on the website. Most of the documents were prepared by law enforcement and official correspondence between government officials. I can not reveal the names of the victims for their own protection. The evidence is there for all to see and evaluate for themselves. Not all of the evidence is displayed on the website, there are numerous documents. You have yourby katrina - Deep Creek Hot Springs, Apple Valley, California
Naked Man is again without his facts straight. Please look at Mike Castro's Deed, especially the legal description. Notice that the buildings are exempted from the property being transferred to Mike Castro. Why would Fred Moss put this clearly on the deed? If Fred Moss owned the buildings, they would have been included in the property being transferred to Mike Castro? This means that Fredby katrina - Deep Creek Hot Springs, Apple Valley, California
Naked man's only proof of the truth turned out to be wrong. The only evidence presented by Naked man to support any of his statements was a map drawn by Mike Castro. After examining actual maps and satellite photos of the area, I believe people were able to determine that the Bowen Ranch parking lot is on private land owned by the Rancho Las Flores. Rancho Las Flores has not given permissionby katrina - Deep Creek Hot Springs, Apple Valley, California
Now this is funny! http://www.deepcreekhotsprings.org/phat.html Phat = phunny and cool Fat = not funny and derogatory It sure is funny how this comic was in today's newspaper. Isn't that funny Arizona Mike? You just need to learn how to spell. Right Mike? See Arizona Mike didn't know how to spell so just change fat to phat in his stories. This is too phunny.by katrina - Deep Creek Hot Springs, Apple Valley, California
The Bureau of Land Management have just released their new proposed plan which is approximately 1,000 pages. You have until September 3, 2002 to make any public comments. The local newspaper, the Daily Press, did a pretty good article about the plan and expressing both sides of the arguement. You can request a copy of the proposed plan for free from the BLM. Their contact information is unby katrina - Deep Creek Hot Springs, Apple Valley, California
DammitChloe, I am of the opinion that this forum on the internet is the perfect place to have these discussions. I am sure that most people enjoying the springs go there for the healing peaceful properties and many don't want to talk about these issues while at the springs. I don't blame them. That is why we talk about them here. This is a free country and people will talk about what they waby katrina - Deep Creek Hot Springs, Apple Valley, California
Author: Informed (---.proxy.aol.com) Date: 04-20-02 10:08 Certainly. If you care to spend some time somewhere other than in front your computer, it is possible to obtain such information through San Bernardino County records. It is also possible to use your computer to help obtain this information. That is how I came across it. My name suits me well. Remember that post Arizona Mike? This peby katrina - Deep Creek Hot Springs, Apple Valley, California
Sorry Dammitchloe. But I can't believe what Arizona Mike is saying. Talk about naming pools after one's self, what about the Arizona Pool?by katrina - Deep Creek Hot Springs, Apple Valley, California
Deep Creek Volunteers first United Soakers second is my vote.by katrina - Deep Creek Hot Springs, Apple Valley, California
Arizona Mike's comments are meant to be harmful. First he intentionally exposed everyone's real name on the forum. This was meant to intimidate people. Then Arizona Mike makes numerous posts depicting Wizard as doing something improper while naked with two little girls. Doesn't mention that the little girls are his daughters and that they are a naturist family. Then Arizona Mike starts mby katrina - Deep Creek Hot Springs, Apple Valley, California
The price for your peaceful enjoyment of the hotsprings is paid by innocent victims of Mike Castro's violent crimes. Do you think that your right to enjoy the hotsprings has more value than a human life? Mike Castro's victims have been left with permanent physical and psychological scars that will never heal. Who will be the next victim? Don't you think that the public should be warned abouby katrina - Deep Creek Hot Springs, Apple Valley, California
SB County road maintenance (909) 387-8063by katrina - Deep Creek Hot Springs, Apple Valley, California
Thank you for your correspondence(s). I apologize for not having gotten back to you more quickly. I think it's a good sign that legal matters didn't progress further than they did with the incident you described, but you're certainly correct that naturists are at risk from enforcement agents who don't know the law they're paid to enforce. From time to time we're forced to respond in court toby katrina - Deep Creek Hot Springs, Apple Valley, California
Buckeye Hot Springs.by katrina - Deep Creek Hot Springs, Apple Valley, California
I believe that these issues need to be examined through legal proceedings and that is where I am heading. This is the only way for the facts to be determined and these issues resolved.by katrina - Deep Creek Hot Springs, Apple Valley, California
I do not purposefully place myself in situations where my safety would be threatened. I believe that Mike Castro is capable of at least attempted murder. I know that Mike Castro is furious with me due to the information on the website. In addition, many of Mike Castro's friends/sympathizers may not have good intentions toward me either. It is my understanding that Mike Castro rants and raves aby katrina - Deep Creek Hot Springs, Apple Valley, California
This is amazing, so many questions and wild statements. Where do I even begin? Remember that I posted on the website that I had contacted Barbara Boxer's Office in Washington, D. C. concerning the proposed bill concerning the designation of "wild and scenic" for Deep Creek? I posted what the person told me concerning my inquiry. I strictly focused on the recreational aspect the faby katrina - Deep Creek Hot Springs, Apple Valley, California
I still receive email from him. Remember Z? I really miss both he and his daughter. I hope they are doing well. I think I will write him and see if he would hang out here on the forum with us. Why not?by katrina - Deep Creek Hot Springs, Apple Valley, California
A disclaimer that anyone can handout the flyer for the better good of the area, however, the group (name to be decided) is not associated, connected, involved, with either side of the land ownership issues. That your group (name to be decided) is independent and above the fray whose purpose is the best for the future of the springs. Maybe a statement about the forum being a place to freely exby katrina - Deep Creek Hot Springs, Apple Valley, California
The issues that you are concerned about appear to be about DCHS, Inc. and the website content. Myself and many of the forum visitors have hashed out many of these issues in the past. We don't agree on everything, however, these were healthy discussions on issues that needed to be aired. I do not assume to know what you are thinking, however, maybe you believe that all the incidents on the websby katrina - Deep Creek Hot Springs, Apple Valley, California
I have a logo for consideration. This was a drawing that I did years ago when having a celebration up there. The drawing has the main pool and joshua trees. Anyway, I will post it and get the logo contest started.by katrina - Deep Creek Hot Springs, Apple Valley, California
I have always known who DCR is and remember the time we spent at Deep Creek with Z. I enjoyed our time together. Now I visit the springs through reading your posts on the forum. Really wish I could be there with you guys. I miss the hike, I miss the mental and physical healing qualities of the springs. 1. United Soakers Is my vote for the name. There may come a time when all hotspringers wiby katrina - Deep Creek Hot Springs, Apple Valley, California
I went to see the photos and was directed to join in order to view. That is new. Anyway I completed all the questions and got my email. Now I guess the next step before I anxiously await to view the wizard photos.by katrina - Deep Creek Hot Springs, Apple Valley, California
You know if you think about it, it makes sense for the Federal Government to manuever into this direction, its cheaper and their campaign contributions would increase. The recreational businesses running all the resorts would be so thankful they would be happy to contribute to their favorite politician. Anyway, these type of scenarios are hard to visualize, something that people don't want toby katrina - Deep Creek Hot Springs, Apple Valley, California
I really think it is important to simply state the laws that may affect you concerning nudity while in the deep creek area. The hotsprings is on National Forest Land, Federal jurisdiction. However, state laws can definetely be enforced on Federal land by the Sheriff's Department and a Forest Ranger. BLM Ranger Nelson does not currently have the authority to enforce state laws on Federal Land.by katrina - Deep Creek Hot Springs, Apple Valley, California
Just click on Log in. Once you click on Log in, it will tell you to log in. Above that box it says, need to register? And you can click there. I just did to make sure. It asks you to register. Then you type in your name and password. Then you are registered and if you want to post on the forum, you would be required to log in.by katrina - Deep Creek Hot Springs, Apple Valley, California