Yes, Jobe. It appears that it was indeed Dean Greenwalt, aka mojavegreen who died in that hit and run by a driver fleeing the CHP. Dean and I had some very fundamental disagreements on a number of issues, but I'm a bit shocked and saddened by his sudden death. I can only hope he did not suffer. Godspeed.by Big Ed - Deep Creek Hot Springs, Apple Valley, California
It's a nice little closed-minded world you guys live in there, but it doesn't make it correct. Fact is, most land that is now closed is that way for three reasons: 1. Environmental groups using political might and money to have lands designated as Federal Wilderness. 2. Environmental groups using legal maneuvering (threats of lawsuits and judicial decrees) as a way of forcing land managers to abby Big Ed - Deep Creek Hot Springs, Apple Valley, California
Are you saying that PC 602 allows trespassing?by Big Ed - Deep Creek Hot Springs, Apple Valley, California
Please allow me to characterize my own advocacy. If your misstatement of what I advocate is the only way for you to demonize me, I'd say you should rethink your statements, lest no one believes you.by Big Ed - Deep Creek Hot Springs, Apple Valley, California
The trespassing laws for nearly every state are strikingly similar to PC 602. It applies also to OHV use on the very same private lands as it does for any other use of someone else's property. Yes, in most places, it's enforced, and the courts hand out appropriate penalties for violations. 3973 is not necessary for trespass laws to apply to OHV use. It applies to OHV use just exactly in the sameby Big Ed - Deep Creek Hot Springs, Apple Valley, California
Among other things, I'm defending the wisdom of the crafters of PC 602, which is entirely consistent with the millennia or so of English Common Law, which protects the rights of the public as well as those of the private property owner, and strikes an equitable balance which does not favor the interests of one special interest group over another in the case of conflicts of such interests. Recenby Big Ed - Deep Creek Hot Springs, Apple Valley, California
All two of them? Where were they advertised?by Big Ed - Deep Creek Hot Springs, Apple Valley, California
Congratulations. I have yet to experience my first grandchild. But I'm looking forward to it. For now, the puppy will have to do.by Big Ed - Deep Creek Hot Springs, Apple Valley, California
First, you are merely reversing my charges against radical environMENTAL groups. Please show some originality. When "crafting" 3973, they forgot one very important thing: to ask what the residents of SB County thought about it. Sometimes, things that sound great in the office fall flat on their face when they have to endure the test of the real world. "Off Road to Ruin" wasby Big Ed - Deep Creek Hot Springs, Apple Valley, California
You don't get out much, do you? Bush Derangement Syndrome. I have my own problems with Mr Bush, but some people are simply pathological in their hatred of him. Considering the two alternatives (Gore and Kerry), I'm glad he's where he is. No doubt, there's room for improvement, but we could be in far worse shape. It's funny you're the angry ones and you think you need to calm ME down? I'm sittingby Big Ed - Deep Creek Hot Springs, Apple Valley, California
Due to this opinion of yours, am I supposed to flip out and begin flinging epithets and wild accusations, LOL? All this indicates is that BDS is alive and well in JF.by Big Ed - Deep Creek Hot Springs, Apple Valley, California
With some people, the story changes depending upon who they are talking to. I'd say if you want to question someone's honesty, I'd begin with Herr Spitler.by Big Ed - Deep Creek Hot Springs, Apple Valley, California
Spitler told me he advocates no OHV use at all. Anywhere. But he is at least practical enough to know that won't happen. So, his goal is to relegate OHV's to 3-acre parcels (motocross tracks), or "parks" outside of a very few large metro areas, where OHV riders will just have to be happy. He feels the CDCA plan of 1980 was merely a stepping stone to a much more restrictive goal of elimiby Big Ed - Deep Creek Hot Springs, Apple Valley, California
Pathetic. Cheers! Have a nice weekend.by Big Ed - Deep Creek Hot Springs, Apple Valley, California
I have Paul Spitler's own words in a conversation I had with him, and that is most assuredly not what he told me. His view is very much in accordance with the Earth Island Institute and the Rewilding Project. Their plans intentionally have no room for any OHV use whatsoever. What he says in public is much different than what he says in private. As difficult as it may be for you, you'll just haveby Big Ed - Deep Creek Hot Springs, Apple Valley, California
That's particularly funny coming from the guy who listed all the horrible evil things that OHV's and their riders allegedly do to our public lands.by Big Ed - Deep Creek Hot Springs, Apple Valley, California
Frankly, I don't care of the state invests everyone's money. If you would join with us in ridding the OHMVR Commission of people such as Spitler, maybe that program will be managed to all our benefit. Until then, they will channel money into the last place it should be going. The fox is in charge of the henhouse. There's your money source, get the fox out and you can have it.by Big Ed - Deep Creek Hot Springs, Apple Valley, California
Well, aren't you clever?by Big Ed - Deep Creek Hot Springs, Apple Valley, California
It's all excuses. Someone might get an owie. They might not catch them. They don't have the right vehicles. They don't have the authority. It's all excuses. The real problem is a lack of funding for sufficient law enforcement. The reasons for lack of funding are twofold: 1. The OHMVR is responsible for a large part of the law enforcement funding for areas popular with OHV users, and that fundinby Big Ed - Deep Creek Hot Springs, Apple Valley, California
Putting words into the mouth of one's rhetorical opponent is usually a good sign that one's own argument is very weak and specious.by Big Ed - Deep Creek Hot Springs, Apple Valley, California
What I don't like is people claiming they advocate one thing, when they actually advocate another. What I don't like is a lack of clarity and deliberate obtuseness and elusiveness when discussing highly controversial topics. What I don't like is being blamed for "poisoning the well" when it's really the actions of someone else who is to blame.by Big Ed - Deep Creek Hot Springs, Apple Valley, California
Please describe why it's a fallacy. I'm very interested in why you think the circumstances of both do not have similar underlying principles. If you can't explain how they differ, I'd say it's pretty good logic. IF: A illustrates a case where the principle of freedom trumps the desire to live with no violators of a law, and IF: B illustrates where the principle of freedom trumps the desire toby Big Ed - Deep Creek Hot Springs, Apple Valley, California
So, don't address the logic and reason of the issue, simply re-state your premises? Sorry, but that is not a valid reason for penalizing legal and lawful OHV users with punitive and overreaching legislation or sour grapes litigation.by Big Ed - Deep Creek Hot Springs, Apple Valley, California
Excuses, excuses.by Big Ed - Deep Creek Hot Springs, Apple Valley, California
Of course. Those involved with corruption should be held to the same standard as anyone else. I don't really care whose side of the land use issue they may be on. However, claims by those on one side of the issue, if they turn out to be false, should be the last claims we should have to bother listening to from those people. Don't you think that's fair?by Big Ed - Deep Creek Hot Springs, Apple Valley, California
You guys are really reaching. So, your reasons for not considering who actually benefits from damaged trail markers are: 1. OHV riders are stupid. 2. Bush is stupid. 3. Trail markers and restoration damage are in the same general zip code. You guys need to think things through a little more before hitting that "post" button.by Big Ed - Deep Creek Hot Springs, Apple Valley, California
Pretty weak argument, OMG. You just painted yourself into a corner and can't get out without some very unfounded arguments. So, you're saying the police/sheriff/blm law enforcement refuse to enforce the laws because to do so could result in a lawsuit? Please.by Big Ed - Deep Creek Hot Springs, Apple Valley, California
Aren't you the same guy who researched and posted my personal information and address on the internet in an attempt to intimidate me into shutting up? Yep. Same guy.by Big Ed - Deep Creek Hot Springs, Apple Valley, California
Everybody thinks they're a comedian.by Big Ed - Deep Creek Hot Springs, Apple Valley, California
"That's a strawman argument." No, I believe that's called a literary metaphor. "Ah, name calling." That's only a bad thing if the name doesn't fit. Since it does, I'd say it's an accurately descriptive noun. Unless you're a writer or English teacher, you may have to look up these particular elements of grammar. Cheers!by Big Ed - Deep Creek Hot Springs, Apple Valley, California