Hi Jobe, I attended a few earlier gatherings, but stopped going as I found them disappointing. Some friends from around the country are planning to attend this one, which I interpret as a hopeful sign that the gatherings may have evolved into something more than a party. In any case, it might serve as a good excuse to camp out, visit with friends, meet some new people and enjoy re-viby mojavegreen - Deep Creek Hot Springs, Apple Valley, California
Any springers planning on attending this year?by mojavegreen - Deep Creek Hot Springs, Apple Valley, California
Lessons from Brentwood: 1) Wear tight-fitting gloves. 2) Leave no witnesses. 3) Get a good lawyer. (Better yet, several.) :-)by mojavegreen - Deep Creek Hot Springs, Apple Valley, California
"Hopeing for something that is unlikely", Jobe? What is there of interest for the next nine years? Do you think the public cares what OJ had for breakfast or if he found a "wife" in prison?by mojavegreen - Deep Creek Hot Springs, Apple Valley, California
Could it have been the big iron door slamming behind OJ in Vegas?by mojavegreen - Deep Creek Hot Springs, Apple Valley, California
Trial today? Any news?by mojavegreen - Deep Creek Hot Springs, Apple Valley, California
Are you suggesting that we (as a nation) ignore the problem until we have the solutions?by mojavegreen - Deep Creek Hot Springs, Apple Valley, California
Unless he can make a strong case for self-defense, seems like a bad move. The seven years could likely have been substantially reduced by good behavior.by mojavegreen - Deep Creek Hot Springs, Apple Valley, California
Jobe wrote, "As I drove Dave to the Village he told me this story about how this Nazi German guy and he were going to do gardening and chores in exchange for rent." Would that have been Madman Mengele?by mojavegreen - Deep Creek Hot Springs, Apple Valley, California
Maybe in our own lifetime, we may have a chance to drink a tall, cold one with these visitors. But, as you say, we still have a ways to go to be considered a friendly travel destination! In the meantime, we are probably providing some good entertainment. Mojaveby mojavegreen - Deep Creek Hot Springs, Apple Valley, California
http://www.news.com.au/story/0,23599,24070088-13762,00.html What do you think, Wizard?by mojavegreen - Deep Creek Hot Springs, Apple Valley, California
Looking for the latest building ideas? Saturday at Santa Monica Civic. http://www.altbuildexpo.com/ Free admission.by mojavegreen - Deep Creek Hot Springs, Apple Valley, California
"The CEO of Bear Stearns was saying just this last week that the institution had no liquidity problems at all, and a week later the entity for all practical purposes collapses." Bush has been giving us the same assurances. Does that mean we have at least a week? LOLby mojavegreen - Deep Creek Hot Springs, Apple Valley, California
Founder of Cal-Earth dies, Hesperia officials unclear on what will happen to program BEATRIZ E. VALENZUELA /V V Daily Press March 12, 2008 - 3:28PM HESPERIA — Nader Khalili, internationally renowned architect, author and founder of the California Institute of Earth Art and Architecture in Hesperia, passed away at the age of 72 on March 5. He died of congestive heart failure at Cedars-Sinai Mby mojavegreen - Deep Creek Hot Springs, Apple Valley, California
Paul P. writes, "Mojave, this forum isn't the time or place for me to shed light on the nattering nabobs of negativism." I would welcome hearing your perspective, Paul P., and I doubt if Rick would object. Mojaveby mojavegreen - Deep Creek Hot Springs, Apple Valley, California
Kunstler pointed out that a new depression would "play out against the background of a society that has pissed away its oil endowment, bulldozed its factories, arbitraged its productive labor, destroyed both family farms and the commercial infrastructure of main street, and trained its population to become overfed diabetic TV zombie "consumers" of other peoples' productivity, paidby mojavegreen - Deep Creek Hot Springs, Apple Valley, California
From my perspective, Kunstler offers more than entertainment, Paul P. I spend much of my time enjoying this closing era, but have the nagging feeling that preparations should be made to deal with impending cataclysmic change. Mojaveby mojavegreen - Deep Creek Hot Springs, Apple Valley, California
I understand 60 head of cattle have been released. It has been impossible to maintain the fences on the north side of Deep Creek as they are cut almost as soon as they are repaired. Consequently, the cattle are necessarily confined to the eastern portion of the allotment (Arrastre and Grapevine Canyons).by mojavegreen - Deep Creek Hot Springs, Apple Valley, California
Mike's volitility and the resulting concern for public safety is one thing. But for an outsider to sift through this forum in an attempt to find material to slander a local resident upstages any of his character deficits. Mojaveby mojavegreen - Deep Creek Hot Springs, Apple Valley, California
I also have good memories of Mike and hope to see him again. He likely regrets making those angry attacks and would be the first to object to them being used by an outsider for libel and slander. Mojaveby mojavegreen - Deep Creek Hot Springs, Apple Valley, California
Where are the "uncrowded pastures" that have been spared destruction, Paul P.? Durango, Colorado above 10,000 feet had to have been one of the last bastions. Mojaveby mojavegreen - Deep Creek Hot Springs, Apple Valley, California
Hasn't Dan Clark posted previously on this forum? Obviously he still follows it and must be chagrined by losing this round to the Bear.by mojavegreen - Deep Creek Hot Springs, Apple Valley, California
Thanks for bringing attention to Carolyn Baker, Wizard. She has much of my own take on our predicament and I am looking forward to checking out her website.by mojavegreen - Deep Creek Hot Springs, Apple Valley, California
Looks like DWP is proposing a second line through Juniper Flats: http://www.ladwp.com/ladwp/cms/ladwp009511.pdfby mojavegreen - Deep Creek Hot Springs, Apple Valley, California
Morongo Valley residents are objecting to the blight of HV transmission lines being proposed through their community. (The currently un-used SCE lines through Juniper Flats are part of the deceptively named Green Path project.) http://www.hidesertstar.com/articles/2007/10/17/news/news1.txtby mojavegreen - Deep Creek Hot Springs, Apple Valley, California
FOGR is coming by bus? Why not ride dirt bikes across the court house lawn? Big Ed (Dan) says that bikes do no more damage than a man on foot. This hearing presents opportunity for Dan to impress the Board of Supes with the quality of his arguments. Go, Dan!by mojavegreen - Deep Creek Hot Springs, Apple Valley, California
Dan writes, "foot-borne trail proliferation and staging for hikers results in precisely the same sort of damage (as dirt bikes) to otherwise pristine areas." Get real, Dan! You must be a real dainty rider.by mojavegreen - Deep Creek Hot Springs, Apple Valley, California
Quite a dilemma as to how to deal with a future that has no precedent in recorded history, Wizard. I have undertaken a number of measures similar to your suggestions, but suspect this will be quite a learning experience for all of us. Your foresight will likely serve you and your family well. As for chemtrails, they could complicate things immensely as food and water will be the critical commoby mojavegreen - Deep Creek Hot Springs, Apple Valley, California
The existing lines were built for the Mohave Generating Station now shut down as a gross polluter. If we had localized power sources, we would be spared these blights on the landscape. Solar could be localized, but apparently Americans prefer to remain under the thumbs of the power companies.by mojavegreen - Deep Creek Hot Springs, Apple Valley, California
http://www.sbsun.com/ci_6466363?IADID=Search-www.sbsun.com-www.sbsun.com Largest solar plant in world would use transmission lines passing through Juniper Flats.by mojavegreen - Deep Creek Hot Springs, Apple Valley, California