Rchan, You say that " she is everywhere ". If I ever come across you at the springs I would be interested in hearing about " she " from your perspective. Peoples veiws on the meaning of life is one of the things I really enjoy talking about while having a nice soak at the springs :-) If the universe is infinite then I see it as certainly possible that all of our philosophical reflections of reality are in error. Beyond that, how can one claim finite knowledge of an infinite realm like the universe. The earth used to be flat by the perception of many in the past. Presently it is round. With greater understanding the earth may come to mean something very differant than what we presently perceive it to be. Heck, what better place to talk about things like this than at the springs :-) You also wrote " Oh, yes the windows ". I have become more interested in what kind, and how much vandalism is occuring around the Bowen Ranch. Did your broken window happen in this area? I'm wondering if there is more of this kind of thing happening than any of us realize because many times it may go unreported. I recommended that some folks join me on a hike to the springs the way I go and told them I thought it was safe because of my experience of no vandalism to my vehicle around the Bowen Ranch. One of the cars of the people that joined me found thier car window broken when they returned to thier vehicle. I get a feeling from the circumstances surrounding this event that its occurence was not " just " random. Lacking specific proof, my " feeling " is conjecture at this point. This unfortunate incidence has altered my veiw of " saftey " around the Bowen Ranch. Is there an " agenda " behind things like this occuring in the area?