Seeing through the dust storms

We are seeking the truth through all the dust storms that the opposing parties are kicking up to confuse people. We want to look at the facts and evidence. Where do you start looking? At the satellite photos to see what is on the ground, roads, trails, places, fences, boundaries, that is where you go when you need to find out about whether a trail exists. In addition, you look at various maps and compare them to the satellite photos.

Just as an example, Laughbear recently said there was no trail, but now he says there is a trail but it was created by cattle. Now, how do we know that for sure? Who created the trail?

You can't tell me that the residents of the Village didn't ride horses to town across Juniper Flats using the very trail that we are speaking of. Then Mojavegreen has been saying that this trail crossed private property. In looking at the satellite photo and maps, we find that this is not true either.

Then we find out that many of Mojavegreen's "KEEP OUT" signs along the powerline road are located on public land, not even close to the boundary of his private property. These "KEEP OUT" signs are painted in black on top of white paint on the boulders, defacing public property, isn't that graffitti?

I never asked you for exact locations of the burial sites. However, you and Laughingbear represent that J1299 goes right through a burial site near Cottonwood Springs. I asked you for locations in relation to J1299. What is wrong with saying well there is one burial site about 2 miles from J1299. What is wrong with that?

We don't believe that there is a burial site is near the rockshelter. I am not suggesting that these sites be marked. I am suggesting that there are other possible solutions to these concerns that should be considered.

Until the facts about the origins of this trail are clear, you can not go any further in addressing your concerns. If this is clearly an illegal trail then you go this way. If this is an existing trail near sensitive areas inappropriate to motorized use then you go another way.

We are following logical steps to find out the truth before we can proceed any further. Until I know the facts, I do not know what my position would be on this trail. If you don't know where you started, you will never get to your destination.

Why are you so defensive in response to my questions? Are you hiding something? Insecure with your position? If you were secure with your position and facts, you would welcome this discussion.

I will continue to find out for myself what the facts are about this trail and related issues and will share my findings with others on the forum.

Have you done any fence repairs lately or are you in default with your agreement with the United States Government?