Oh no Mr Wizard, its happening again! I must say Gary, good form on that last post :-) You hit that nail " hard " on the head! AZ, whether you realize it or not, you do have an anger management probem, and that has been realized by my direct experience with you on a number of occasions, as well as by your experience with others I know. Sycamore has not seen this part of your personality yet, so I understand that its hard for her to fathom you being in a state of anger, during which, your not in much control of yourself. You need to show some respect for the fact that not all folks agree with all you think. I know of a number of people who simply do not want anything to do with you because of how you have gone off on them. I,m pretty damm layed back about how you have treated me at times. Obstinate and Grouchy are " perfect " words to describe how you can be, under the right circumstances. I for one don't expect you to agree with other folks on the issues, you have your own view of things. You do however need to serriously consider that there are those that will choose not to be around you, or respond to you, if you continue to attack them verbally, or in post, simply because they express a position on subjects, differant than your own. Now as Gary has mentioned, I consider you to do fine work in your pool building, you have spent many long hours showing how you care for Deep Creek and DCHS, in a variety of ways. But your manner of addressing people in various post at the forum, and as I have known you to do in person, will not serve you well if respect is something your seeking. So express your contrary position, but also show some consideration and respect for others who may hold positions on subjects, differant to your own.