Sycamore, you stated above in reference to me " we you yourself have done more questionable things, like trail building ". The keyword here is " done ". So, without question, you made a statement that I build trails, as a fact. Now in your latest post you state " I have no proof whatsoever ". These two statements say completely differant things, they are completely at odds with eachother. In the first statement you talk about a subject, as if it were solid truth, and then you come along later and state that you have no proof at all about what you previously stated. What does the rest of your first paragraph in the above post mean. You say the story about the trail, you heard from me. Were you purposely trying to to be vague as to mislead the readers here. You certainly didn't hear any story from me saying I built a trail, or the same written here at this forum. Your first paragraph above is so vague that it might imply that you heard a story from me, in which I told you I built a trail. Like I said before, I knew your answer before you told it, you have no proof on this subject, you certainly shouldn't be making statements about what I have done, like they were fact as you did above about this trail business. The first person I head about this story, of me building a trail coming from, was Mike Castro. I heard Mike Castro once make the statement " you tell a lie long enough and it will become truth ". Something for you to think about Sycamore when your stating things as facts, that are really nothing more that a story you have been told. Regarding the Stacked Rocks, I said it doesn't blow my trip, I still would rather not see them, just my preference. I'll respond to some of your other points, in the above post, later.