Rudedog,
The National forest is the world's largest restroom. Not in the traditional sense. It requires horse sense and squatting and some for thought, bringing paper with you. Some visitors are idiots and have never experienced this problem and THAT is the problem. Educate them.
Yesterday was a learning event for me. The hippie vibe that used to be at DCHS was absent. Because some red necked beer drinkers came down early. Drinking beer for breakfest has never been cool. Many friends have told me that when I went back to Florida the hippie vibe went with me 😮