DCR, you have made excellent points. Naked Man, you and AZ are hopelessly mirred in misguided thinking. You both are on a merry go round that never ends in the Bowen Ranch Bermuda triangle. You ask if I built the JF3 trail. I have specifically answered that question a number of times here on the forum, beginning the first time when I did my post titled " Road Trip " back around april. I will not answer it again. Do some research. The answer is there for you to find. FOF, I agree completely with the point you make about screening. There are plenty of Forestry trails in public lands where you park and hike and are not required to go through a screening process. Naked Man, the way you and AZ act, we all would be under your expert scrutiny at every trail head. Have you both gone completely nuts! Its a relief to know that you two arn't running USFS policy or we'd be in real trouble at the trailheads in the public lands.