Mr. D , I'm just curious, what didn't you like about living in the Victor valley. I live here and think it is a nice place to live. Lots of sunny days, cleaner air, affordable housing, close to the hotsprings, and no traffic jams unless your trying to cross over the freeway at bear valley rd. at the wrong time of the day! OK it does get a bit windy at times but that helps keep it cool. Oh did I mention, close to the hotsprings :-)