Ron, I am truly impressed by what you have put together here. Let me be the first to say, thank you very much for your efforts on this. The date for the first meeting you suggested will work for me. There are three parks I'm looking at on the map of the area which are essentially along the way most people would be traveling to the springs. There is the Mohave Narrows park on the Mohave river just north of Bear Valley road. I beleive there is a 3 dollar entrance fee to this one. It is the biggest park in the Victorville area. There is the Apple Valley community center park just north of Bear valley on Navajo which is near Central. It is plenty big enough for our needs and is free. I'm also seeing a small park not to far from Central and Ocotillo. It looks small even though I don't think we are going to take up to much space :-) I have not seen this one. I'll take a look at it to see if it might have good shade etc to meet our needs. If we do use a park I think it would add comfort for people to bring themselves a folding chair. I'll report back when I check out that last park. Again I must say " GREAT " job on your post above Ron :-)