thanks for the info. Van. i know family canyon, i can find scott easy; seems the cops can't. i was there on saturday; scott was there, as per usual, hanging out in the early morning. i gave him a HARD look and he vanished for the day. he seems to have moved his camp down stream; he was camped right upstream of the arizona pool. short hair guy was there too, and my friends saw the little girl and the wierd dude with the dog, but i didn't.

paul, the dude is camped @ the springs, he fits the description of a wanted child molester, and he opened his big mouth and told me he was from utah, that's when i started putting pieces together. he also had a creepy vibe when i was down there with a lady friend and her teenage daughters. what i do know, without doubt, is that he's been there way too long and he said he'd shoot me. his time is up, one way or another. i'm going to the apple valley police station tommorrow to look at mug shots. then i'm off to the hot springs in the afternoon. i'll post what i find out.