Free, My point when I said that Katrina and youwere the same(alas I was mistaken)was that I thought Katrina and Free also shared the same server . So do you and Monkey Wrench Gang-and many others I am sure. The reason I originally went on as 'Cares',was because that was how I felt.I became incredulous after reading the amount of material on this site devoted to vendetta and anger. I stopped posting as Cares after I became Incredulous. i never did it create a secret society- or whatever.I still care deeply about the Springs and fully agree with Naked Man.