Again time will tell the story of who has stated things most clearly on these issues. Katrina, I don't think that naked man will except anything you propose about these access and Bowen Ranch issues. Further explanations will most likely be wasted time in regards to convincing him that you are right. It will be interesting to see how the story unfolds concerning these things. I'm sure that even if katrina prevails on the Bowen Building and the Moss Mill issues that a number of folks will still be argueing about whether it was right or not. Some will never be satisfied. Well to quote one of my favorite sayings " Something is going to happen " which will always leave you confident that you have said something completely accurate :-) I'm sure I'll get no arguments on that one :-)