This Forum claims to be for Disscussion , maybe you can change it to the witch hunt forum . I know Mike well .And I know most of you . You don't want to discuss anything Apart from some trip reports and some helpful road and weather reports the rest is just whinning on about the same old BS .They say don't wrestle wiith a pig, as the pig likes it and you still end up covered in shit. That's how I feel about this website . All you want to do is rehash a unproven and malicious list of theories and events and you hate to be questioned on anything . Yes you have carried trash out . Thankyou ,that's how society works these days good people clean up bad peoples shit .I have carried mine and many other peoples out as well ,I hope you get medals someday . I don't want debate every point for the reasons I stated earlier .if you are new to this site please realize that most of the people who post have had previous issues with him and some got their ego bruised, one lost his squat,some have been barred from the ranch for good reason , and now use this Forum to get even . So Rick I don't have motive I am just informed and have my own opinion , can you handle that ?