Cred, I never suggested that " you must " be involved with any group out " there ". People can get together to help with the problems at DCHS if they want to. You must be confusing me with someone else in regards to all of the points you have made in the above post. My actions are aligned with all that you have said. I too have hiked in from ( I'm sure ) as many directions as you have. I have no short term goals in regards to the springs. My children have enjoyed OZ since they were both about 2 months old. I take care of the springs and I find it to be a wonderful place to visit. The disagreements that exist among differant people concerned with the springs are just that, disagreements. They will not go away just because you describe these arguments as being politics or vendetas or anything else. Can you show me any post I have done here where I suggest that new roads and trails need to be built? I always clean up after myself at OZ and show respect for the environment there. Your post must be meant for someone else :-)