Well Impartial, we obviously don't see things the same way on this forum discussion issue. I,m sure you will be the first one to tell me I told you so if the Forest Service ever closes the springs someday stating " The DCHS forum made me do it " :-) So Mike Castro is claiming the 5th on this one. Kinda like those enron boys :-) Well he has the same opportunity as anyone else to make his case here at the DCHS forum, and if he doesn't then we are left to wonder, or get things second hand from his compadres. My wizards crystal ball says that Mike Castro probably won't be showing up here any time soon and folks are gonna keep expressing themselves on the DCHS forum :-)