Paul, I'm not sure what Ron is up to these days, since I have not seen him in some time. I talked to him by phone a couple of months ago, and he did express that he was very busy with work, and various projects fixing up the home he purchased a while back. He did visit DCHS a month or so ago, and I was hiking that day also in the Deep Creek canyon, and just missed him at DCHS. I don't know what his specific plans are regarding DCV. I saw Ralph last weekend, and we keep in contact pretty regularly. Ralph is also very busy with work and other obligations and has not been to DCHS in quite a while. If Ralph does find that he is experiencing some difficulty, financialy or otherwise in maintaining the DCV website, I would bring it to the attention of the DCHS Forum, since I'm sure we could come up with the means to keep the DCV website active. Thanks to Rick for your suggested help. Ralph has not indicated to me any problem in maintaining the website at this point. He may be coming up to my place this weekend, and if so, I want to work with him, looking at the website, to perhaps modify some of the info, as pertaining to meetings, and to the quarterly news letter Ron had for some time in the past tried to get out. Also I noticed in my recent copy of the Naturist Society magazine that DCV no longer shows as an affiliated group with them, so Ron may have contacted them to make this change, since people are not actively meeting anymore. I think these changes would be benificial, so that the DCV website does not have erroneous, or outdated info on it.